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Finished: 06 AM Sat 15 Jun 19 UTC
Learning the ropes
1 days /phase
Pot: 170 D - Autumn, 1912, Finished
Classic - Chaos, Anonymous players, Unranked
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Restitution (77 D)
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Norway]:wait actually, no sevastapol your conquest was slower...
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Norway]:Oh my gosh, this arguement was not my fault
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Norway]:Can we all agree?
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Norway]:Maybe if i spam a message nothing will happen
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Norway]:Don't look up
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Norway]:Just don't
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [St-Petersburg]:Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Warsaw]:Only total egotistical Maniac little assholes stab when somebody has 14 supply centers, London is just a complete and total dick.
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Warsaw]:Munich just support Moscow into St Pete, let him walk into Munich, that puts him at 16 you can then make sure London loses, I mean you're going to lose any way, may as well make sure that that fucking dickhead asshole London loses too
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Sevastopol]:^ This guy is a lunatic
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Sevastopol]:I agree wasn't your fault, Norway. Just Warsaw continuing to be a low-skill individual. Blaming others for his own poor play.
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Norway]:Maybe if no one says another single thing in the global chat nothing will happen
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Norway]:But i agree with you, sevastapol.
Warsaw is just salty because he got stabbed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Be friends like these people
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Spain]:I agree Munich, kill London and move on in life.
10 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1911: [Spain]:I'm kinda sad that I died to the person who is second last on the leaderboard... come on! You gotta make me look good!
11 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1911: [Paris]:Damn London, you're steam rolling over us now
11 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1911: [Budapest]:Damn,heck of a game. I think Warsaw and Sevastopol forget there first betrayal- me
11 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1911: [Budapest]:My ineptitude led to their strong start and Sevastopol’s likely victory. So I’m just saying,I think that makes me part of Sevastopol’s probable victory
11 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1911: [Norway]:Everytime i see a message symbol over this game i am soooo afraid of what someone is saying
11 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1911: [London]:Are you still nervous Warsaw? Do you remember your threats to me? You told me you were an expert player and that you were going to take me out of the game quickly. You wanted to betray everyone and your pride makes you vulnerable.
Munich, it's a game and my agreement was with the previous player. You move differently and I do not like it.
Spain, are you declaring war on me?
My only goal was for Warsaw to disappear. I think it's stupid. Everything that happens after I do not care
12 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1911: [Tunis]:Well I missed seeing spring 1911 moves etc and opened this with eleven minutes left to Autumn move & unread messages from​Rome and Sevastapol. So I read message from Rome, did orders quickly & replied to Rome & sent London a message. Looked at another game. Came back to this post Autumn move.
Sevastapol will win this easily from this position.
London won't be able to get enough armies to the centre quickly enough to beat Sevastapol
.. and why should Rome and myself trust London?
Rome and I will be the last two independent players to get crushed.. I would pay tribute to the player with Rome, we made an alliance at the start of the game and this player has behaved honourably and been loyal to our alliance, so "well played & thank you'

Sweetypie Sevastapol, haven't had time to read your message, is it the usual poisonous vitriolic rant ?
Imagine a response from this, in your opinion, low skilled peasant, that is erudite & with a paraphrased barb from Oscar Wilde. Then have a whine in global message facility.. or cut to that now...
12 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1911: [Norway]:Now seems like a pretty good draw time
12 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1911: [Norway]:Am I right or am I completely wrong?
12 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1911: [Sevastopol]:"Sweetypie Sevastapol, haven't had time to read your message, is it the usual poisonous vitriolic rant ?
Imagine a response from this, in your opinion, low skilled peasant, that is erudite & with a paraphrased barb from Oscar Wilde. Then have a whine in global message facility.. or cut to that now..."

I literally can't even
12 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1911: [Munich]:"Everything that happens after I do not care"

It is good to hear. :)
13 Jun 19 UTC Spring, 1912: [Sevastopol]:GG
13 Jun 19 UTC [Sevastopol]:Easiest game of my life
13 Jun 19 UTC [Munich]:What a pity that it is a unranked game. :)
13 Jun 19 UTC [Sevastopol]:Meh, it's not like there's ghost rankings for Chaos. I still feel like it was a real game. :P
13 Jun 19 UTC [Sevastopol]:Although I am certainly not opposed to GR for Chaos.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Sevastopol]:Easiest game of my life
14 Jun 19 UTC [St-Petersburg]:GG
14 Jun 19 UTC [Sevastopol]:@Munich

To be honest, I consider it poor sportsmanship to throw a game, especially if you subbed in.

I think you could have made the draw - put me into Munich and St.P, then hold Berlin as part of the stalemate line since London wouldn't be able to cut you from the game. You could have thrown just enough to force London to stop killing you, without actually throwing the game.

Nonetheless, thanks for putting me in, lol.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Sevastopol]:London wouldn't have been able to kill you, since I'd have been in Prussia, Silesia, Munich and he would need to support hold you from Baltic and Kiel.

I probably still would have solo'd in Italy, but conceivably London retakes St.P or Munich before I can do that. There are definitely worlds where you made the draw.

I personally consider making the draw in a desperate situation the mark of an excellent player.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Munich]:You see the situation badly.

It was a lesson for London. It was not the situation, where he can stab back his ally with impunity. And who cares? It is an unranked game. :)
14 Jun 19 UTC [Sevastopol]:I get your perspective, I think we just have different philosophies on this game.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Munich]:I can make a draw in a lot of situation, but in this game, it was not important to me. I was just a replacement, to move the game forward. I was the random factor. ;-)
14 Jun 19 UTC [Warsaw]:London is a dick.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Tunis]:I'm inclined to agree.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Tunis]:But would add selfish to your description.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Sevastopol]:I think that this game had several players who have got very bad diplomatic skills and ended up alienating the people they needed to survive.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Munich]:That is why are we here, to better diplomats. Isn't it? :)
14 Jun 19 UTC [Sevastopol]:Original Warsaw asked me why I stabbed him, and I figured I'd post it here as a bit of an after-action report.


"My main thought was: this is the best chance I will have to solo. I saw that I had a stab opportunity where I could guaranteed take 2 SCs in a year, and then because of your destroys I would be guaranteed Serbia and either Venice or Warsaw the subsequent year. And I figured that if we pushed forward and I got stuck against Germany, I wouldn't have that opportunity again.

You got destroyed by the StP catastrophe. Had he attacked Munich, our tempo would have been higher and I wouldn't have been "forced" to stab you to maintain growth.

And also, I saw that your primarily army-based composition was not going to be of assistance in the Med; so basically, sticking with you meant bogging down against Germany, and pushing my Med campaign at the same pace as if I were to stab you.

I also needed more fleets for my Med campaign that I was not going to get otherwise. (again, StP problem).

Basically, the long-term value of our alliance evaporated, and there was an enormous use-it-or-lose-it opportunity to take you out in one move.

Also: while my primary motivation was to solo, I also wanted to cut down the draw if I could not. I saw an outcome coming where you and I would push the stalemate line, and then Germany would be forced to ally with her neighbors and wouldn't be able to cut them. I was hoping to free either her or London up to cut down the lesser nations or even stab each other.

Since we were the 2 dominating players, AND we were on the same half of the stalemate line, a 3-way draw against a behemoth on the North was impossible; if we kept pushing, it would just be a 4-or-more way draw.

The best way to achieve a 3-way draw was to attack you, and become the 1 against the 2 in the north. Since the reverse was very clearly going to not happen. And then, of course, I did also think I had an excellent shot at the solo due to the disunity inherent in the variant, and the fact that *lots* of units were locked up in Spain or Britain or whatever and wouldn't be able to effectively resist me."
14 Jun 19 UTC [Sevastopol]:I might post a larger AAR later.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Warsaw]:I am not the original Warsaw, I arrived after the stab in case anybody doesn't understand that.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Warsaw]:And I agree that London is a selfish dick. Spot on Tunis.
14 Jun 19 UTC [Spain]:Congrats!
15 Jun 19 UTC [Bulgaria]:The game lived up to its name. I didn't think anybody would solo from the chaotic opening, but soon realised that Sev with his ruthless agression was the one to watch,but could not convince enough players to see it.
15 Jun 19 UTC [Bulgaria]:Well played Sev deserved win.
15 Jun 19 UTC [Norway]:im looking back at the turns.
Omg like 7 turns in a row sev would move into an sc without support and they would move out of their sc.
Wth

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Sevastopol
Restitution (77 D)
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
London
Maluco Rasta (154 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
13 supply-centers, 11 units
Rome
thor12745 (269 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
1 supply-centers, 2 units
Tunis
MajorMitchell (1033 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
1 supply-centers, 2 units
Munich
qrzy (2550 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Ankara
cthedeck (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Belgium
josemurc (27883 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Berlin
J Longstreet (79 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Brest
Chesney (678 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Budapest
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Bulgaria
Nodnyl (109 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Constantinople
KJeffrey12 (740 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Denmark
Ferrous (154 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Edinburgh
alex222 (227 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Greece
TheAntiNero (161 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Holland
LeonWalras (419 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Kiel
mcbigski (4208 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Liverpool
Hoodo (160 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Marseilles
Lokelo (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Moscow
DanielW (80 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Naples
jka1509 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Norway
Rhall1952 (95 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Paris
Felscor (180 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Portugal
Zywan (206 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Rumania
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Serbia
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Smyrna
MaelwysII (548 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Spain
Duaner02 (245 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
St-Petersburg
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Sweden
Xtreme_Boi (90 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Trieste
jhoffer007 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Venice
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Vienna
cyyfyy (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Warsaw
Tugster (8964 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
Vasisubani (145 D)Warsaw (Autumn, 1907) with 4 centres.
LongRoll (179 D)Munich (Autumn, 1909) with 6 centres.
tomilic18 (100 D)Ankara (Autumn, 1903) with 0 centres.
American Pie Guy (15 D X)Warsaw (Spring, 1908) with 4 centres.
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