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Finished: 04 AM Thu 16 May 19 UTC
Brutus Iscariot
1 days /phase
Pot: 300 D - Autumn, 2011, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
09 May 19 UTC Spring, 2009: I know, I just like talking smack >:)
09 May 19 UTC Spring, 2009: @Poland, our position is untenable. Once you take MAO, you can cut support for Navarra, and that will give you 5 units to pick at Bor and Paris, while we will have only 4 to defend. I don't think we will successfully guess support from Auv correctly indefinitely. Well played.
09 May 19 UTC Spring, 2009: That only gives me 2. The third is the tricky one, but I've got a plan. It isn't 100% to work, so this game is not done yet.
09 May 19 UTC Spring, 2009: He'll take Paris and Bordeaux but unless this mystery plan is able to break it, he won't get past that point.

This really would have all been easier though if the MAO had just been safely held instead of trying to attack with it...
09 May 19 UTC Spring, 2009: Marseilles need to support Lyon
09 May 19 UTC Spring, 2009: Piedmont and Lyon can hold seitzerland
09 May 19 UTC Spring, 2009: Strait of Gibraltar should move to the South Atlantic, that way when Britain loses Bordeaux they can disband that fleet. Barcelona can hold Navarra and then Auv and Marseilles can keep Lyon safe
09 May 19 UTC Spring, 2009: I think that’s a stalemate unless I’m missing something
10 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2009: Ok i was thinking it was 31 not 33 for the win.
10 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2009: I meant Piedmont and Milan earlier, not piedmont and Lyon. Apologies
12 May 19 UTC Spring, 2010: Britain you need to start support holding Navarra with Portugal. There's no room for anything else.
12 May 19 UTC Spring, 2010: Damn it I just realized something... this wouldn't have been an issue if Ukraine didn't make me feel like I needed to reinforce in the east again...
12 May 19 UTC Spring, 2010: Britain stop trying to gain ground, just hold what you have
12 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: Dude, the only thing I’m doing is waiting for this painful game to end.
12 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: then let people who want to play, play??
12 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: Itd be cool if we all readied our moves, then the game might not be quite so insanely slow
13 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: it's just spain
13 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: I think I did the right thing, Spain rebuilding in Madrid is more useful than an army in Monaco.
13 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: So I think it's a stalemate line.
13 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: Mhmm
13 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: Isn’t 32 the winning number???
13 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: 33
13 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: You did the right thing, France. The hole in our defense I ended up realizing will no be closed.
13 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: now*
13 May 19 UTC Autumn, 2010: Yeah that seems like it was the best play.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: I'm pretty sure we have a stalemate.

If Mad and Por support hold Nav, Bar support holds Auv, and Auv and Mar support hold Lyo, that completes the stalemate line as I see it. The rest of the line can repeat last turn's orders and I see no way for Poland to break through.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: Well then Poland...
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: Maybe Poland plans to try and get the fleet from Sev to the Caspian (Sev -> Don -> Vol -> Cas).

In preparation for such a plan, perhaps Ada should move to Arm, while Ist support holds Ank and Mac support hold Bul. Then next turn Arm can move to Aze, plugging the last conceivable hole in the line.

If we do this, I'm fairly certain there's nothing Poland can do to stop such a plan or break the line.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: So, Poland, your draw vote, please.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: Turkey just lost us the game by pointlessly giving up the Black Sea...
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: God damn it... there was no reason to give Poland the Black Sea either...
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: Oh wait I need to wake up more.

We're at a definite stalemate.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: This game has gone on for so damn long.

Also Poland can't get to the Caspian unless he dislodges Rostov.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: Mhmm
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: Good thing you guys got together when you did, there was no way you were going to win a lone
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: I'm pretty sure you are correct. Give this one more turn and I will draw. You have all played a very good game, especially France with that last move. Egypt you showed exceptional restraint early which has paid off greatly.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: The Black Sea is inconsequential Egypt, I still have Poland stalemated
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: Ah you're right, Egypt. I mistakenly thought fleets could travel directly from Don to Vol (the yellow Turkish color of Ros concealed the river on the map).

This seems like an airtight stalemate to me, then, and it's unnecessary to get a unit into Aze.
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: Although Poland's request for one more turn makes me wonder if we've missed something...
13 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: Yeah I realized that Turkey. I wasn't fully awake yet.

And very well, Poland. Let's see what you can do.

And so far I don't see anything that we've missed unless people mess up their support holds...
14 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: So everybody be extra careful about your orders. Triple check
14 May 19 UTC Spring, 2011: Check
14 May 19 UTC Well all three of my orders are support hold Lyon for the rest of the game. And everyone now has an excused missed turn, so great effort Poland. Unless you insist on conquering Estonia first, let's put this one to bed.
14 May 19 UTC Good game all. France, you really saved it by taking auverne from Spain I do believe it is a stalemate. I wanted one extra turn for somebody to make a mistake, but you have successfully foiled my plans for world domination.
14 May 19 UTC Good game.
14 May 19 UTC Good game all!
14 May 19 UTC Good game
14 May 19 UTC Good game everyone! This was fun
14 May 19 UTC Good game.
14 May 19 UTC well played to all....

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Poland
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 43 D
32 supply-centers, 32 units
Egypt
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 43 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Turkey
RavenEyed (151 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 43 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Britain
allanxo (940 D (G))
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 43 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
Ukraine
Sanardo (182 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 43 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
France
mcbigski (4288 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 43 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Spain
nxm (182 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 43 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Germany
Hared (954 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Italy
What1881 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Russia
FlaviusAetius (771 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
jigglycheese27 (109 D)Russia (Autumn, 1997) with 1 centres.
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