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Finished: 11 PM Sun 24 Feb 19 UTC
Gunboat live-71
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 161 D - Spring, 1912, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
24 Feb 19 UTC Good game, glad we could work it out, France!
24 Feb 19 UTC Congratulations Germany, France finally realized how to attack Spain properly. Congratulations to Austria as well. Your defense was quite good, although not perfect. It was respectable considering you did guess correctly a few times before eventually faltering. I also thank you for your alliance early in the game, even if you did move to Tyrolia in spring 01, I expected that was a defensive manuever and it seems like it was considering your future cooperation with me.

France's performance left a lot to be desired in my opinion. Your orders in England were seriously questionable and your attack on Tunis was foolish. If you had eliminated Germany, this would have been a three way draw instead.

If both of you had played it more aggressively we also could have eliminated Austria and reached a three way draw. I realized you feared my solo, and rightfully so, but you could have just let me kill Austria while holding Moscow and Spain and there would have been no chance of a solo.
24 Feb 19 UTC GG!It was a good job to have a defensive line against Italy.
24 Feb 19 UTC The presence of the Navy in Tunis threatens Spain.
If it was the Army I would have continued German attack.
24 Feb 19 UTC I was waiting for my demise, but glad that France got distracted and I could make him slowly move out of the lowlands.
24 Feb 19 UTC There was no navy in Tunis. Check the orders. I left. You attacked when it was completely empty.
24 Feb 19 UTC I was tempted at the last minute to cancel my draw and help eliminate Austria, but it's late...
24 Feb 19 UTC I was never going to attack France prior to killing Austria and Turkey if not for his silly attack on Tunis and subsequent reinforcement of the Med.
24 Feb 19 UTC Germany, I am curious what you were thinking when I jumped in with france and attacked Berlin? I would have stayed and kicked you out of Munich if not for France attacking Tunis. That was your lucky break.
24 Feb 19 UTC I was thinking that I was going to die :) Of course, your three armies marching south was my lucky break!
24 Feb 19 UTC I did a good job killing off England, though, that helped me maintain my unit strength under French attack and stay in the game
24 Feb 19 UTC Well I couldn't fight you, France, Austria and Turkey at the same time, could I? Like I said, if France never sails to Tunis, the whole game changes. France and I eliminate you, I stab Austria one year later with my full army, and he can't stop that.

I assumed Russia would live. Since he NMR's, I would have solo'd for sure. If he stays, I either solo or finish in a three way draw with France and Russia. So that was the plan prior to France letting off the gas against Germany.
24 Feb 19 UTC you played a very good game, FiftyFifty, the only misorder at the end (Naf-Wes) cost you Spain. I'm still not sure whether France saw the proper way to get Spain, he should have order MAO-Spa/sc with support from Por and Gas and cut support from Mar. That was indefensible.
24 Feb 19 UTC Also, apologies to Turkey. That was completely unfair for him. Turkey, if you're reading this, I wish you better luck in future games.
24 Feb 19 UTC that's why I ordered support Eng-MAO from Iri, nut not sure he ever picked up on that. France?
24 Feb 19 UTC Oh, I never even realized that I lost Spain because I misordered.

And you're right. France actually doesn't know the rules of the game. He probably would have kept attacking from Portugal for years if I'd let him.

Which meant I just wasted a chance to eliminate Austria on a misorder. What a shame.
24 Feb 19 UTC I understand why you were going back home when France came after you.
24 Feb 19 UTC after I marched all my armies into Russia, I obviously would have felt confident to let you grab Austrian SCs, while I was building the stalemate up north
24 Feb 19 UTC Given all that... I think there's a timeline where you solo this game yourself Germany. If you veto the draw and France stubbornly keeps attacking me, you might have had it.
24 Feb 19 UTC It would have been a long game... I did the math and assuming I could have take Sev (no guarantee for sure), I could have stabbed in Mun, Hol, then picked up Lon and Bel, which would have taken me to 15
24 Feb 19 UTC by that time, you would have had 16 and France would be left in Por, Par and Bre. So... not sure.
24 Feb 19 UTC Right. That's where France comes in. He basically gets to decide who solos at that point. If he stubbornly goes after me, you would take at least Brest and Paris, in addition to the rest. Then you need one more, and my armies are much more spread out than yours would be. More importantly, I have too many fleets. I think you would take Vienna and win. Or maybe France quits at 3AM, I take Spain and Portugal, and I win.
24 Feb 19 UTC There was not much reason to attack German who agreed with the draw.
It is no doubt that attacking Italy who wanted continuation of the game was the best hand for the draw.
I thought that should be draw when Austria became anarchy.
24 Feb 19 UTC good game, and thanks for the post-game analysis, Fifty-Fifty, I hope to see you in another game (as an ally :)
24 Feb 19 UTC Good night folks.
24 Feb 19 UTC that's a reasonable point, and an unfortunate side effect of non-hidden draw games
24 Feb 19 UTC good night!

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FiftyFifty (107 D)
Drawn. Bet: 23 D, won: 40 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
dipperjay (1454 D (G))
Drawn. Bet: 23 D, won: 40 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
limited (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 23 D, won: 40 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
nguyenmt (5028 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 40 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
tomasie (120 D)
Resigned. Bet: 23 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Defeated. Bet: 23 D
The Czech (42580 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 23 D
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whaskell (90 D)Austria (Spring, 1907) with 5 centres.
tomasie (120 D)Russia (Autumn, 1907) with 4 centres.
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