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Finished: 12 PM Sun 07 Apr 19 UTC
Private ODC 2019 - R1 G9
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring, Hidden draw votes, Wait for orders
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
18 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 1901: good luck everyone!
18 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck people :)
18 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 1901: May the best diplomat win
26 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 1903: Bollocks
26 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 1903: look at that, no retreats, no builds, how often do you see that in a fall turn?
26 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 1903: Here's to utter stagnation!
26 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 1903: https://youtu.be/5DmYLrxR0Y8
27 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: FYI I have a big work event today so I’ve been a bit slow kogging in and will through today.
27 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: Okie dokie. Germany, France, and England are allied. I'm just going to use all of my forces to stymie France from pushing east through me. Obviously, Austria or Turkey could stab me if you want but honestly I'm perfectly happily riding this out as a minor power and not growing. I'm not a threat to anyone to my east.
28 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: This is turning out to be quite a game.
28 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: And it’s only 1903
01 Mar 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: https://youtu.be/jqSlaMME-Mk
24 Mar 19 UTC Spring, 1907: Someone not entering orders? Sigh
25 Mar 19 UTC Spring, 1907: Moderator: (Durga): Sorry guys! I'll check in on this
25 Mar 19 UTC Spring, 1907: do they do this for every move? the whole game?
25 Mar 19 UTC Spring, 1907: Only when there is someone late. It’s a tournament game, so we are set for eating for orders. Normally, it’s be an NMR
25 Mar 19 UTC Spring, 1907: What do you guys think of a draw after fall
25 Mar 19 UTC Spring, 1907: Basically a four way
28 Mar 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: I think Turkey's post fall draw is a grand idea.
28 Mar 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: After retreats are done. Let’s draw.
28 Mar 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: Agreed.
29 Mar 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: We are drawing now. Please cast your votes.
30 Mar 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: Get me 11 centers and I’m in
30 Mar 19 UTC Autumn, 1907: me too, 11 sounds good to me as well.
31 Mar 19 UTC Spring, 1908: I for one respect my Turkish overlords and vote for a draw.
01 Apr 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Another WFO? :|
01 Apr 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Is the deadline really reset to another 36 hours?
01 Apr 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Wasn't me.
01 Apr 19 UTC Spring, 1908: I think the phase advances as soon as the player enters orders
01 Apr 19 UTC Spring, 1908: I don’t know (have another game with the same issue) how long we have to wait before a replacement player is put in.
01 Apr 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Per tournament rules, the second WFO triggers a replacement. I’m assuming the first was Germany. Given who I’ve had press from maybe it’s Italy this time?
01 Apr 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Oh. Never mind. Turkey, not Italy.
02 Apr 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Neat. We can just all press draw and be done with it.
02 Apr 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Moderator: (Durga): Looking into this, sorry
02 Apr 19 UTC Spring, 1908: Curse your sudden yet inevitable betrayal.
03 Apr 19 UTC Hahaha! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die!
06 Apr 19 UTC My goodness. France, you were right. a 10-10-9-5 split is better for us than a 11-11-13 split by two points. I hadn't quite expected I was the outstanding vote.

Good game all. A pleasure (of sorts) working with you, tugster. You sure made me work for it!

Thanks.
06 Apr 19 UTC It feels a bit sudden and (given my precarious situation) undeserved.

First, thank you everyone for the game. It was interesting, exhilarating, at times infuriating and fun. Tugster, thank you for the support (you might not have felt like it). You would probably get more what you want if you are less abrasive in your diplomacy.

England, for me you really bottled this game. At the point where Germany was gone, you had a great position to attack France no matter the rest of the board. For me, you played like a player in the pocket of France and you acted like a newbie beholden to your friend. You were parroting his opinions and obviously sharing my letters with him (when I get a reply from France an hour after I have emailed you, where he quotes almost verbatim what I have told you it is fairly obvious). I would have expected you to be able to get at least a two-way, maybe a three-way with you as the major part from this.
06 Apr 19 UTC Your read of the board is wrong. Turkey was mostly guaranteed his half of the board and I didn’t have the armies to hold Moscow and Warsaw. If he’d beaten me to Spain and Marseilles (as France certainly would have guaranteed) the Turkey would have soloed.

I might have had a chance if I had turned immediately on France before Germany died, but Germany was still a threat and a three way draw with a dominant position as here didn’t mean I had to take such a arge risk


Beleive me, I thought long and hard about precisely that stab, but I very much doubt it was feasible.
06 Apr 19 UTC I’d refer you to the game won by Mr Green for an example of how it can go very wrong if you stab someone you need for the draw
06 Apr 19 UTC I don’t think I ever had a shot for the solo with these dynamics. Even if Austria completely surrendered both of you together would easily stop that, considering each new land army would need to start all the way in Turkey. Although I could have gained a few SCs and then drawn for a couple of more pts but a draw was destined.

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England
Ogion (3974 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
10 supply-centers, 9 units
France
Tugster (13048 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
10 supply-centers, 9 units
Turkey
devbali02 (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 10 D
9 supply-centers, 8 units
Austria
jollycream (969 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 3 D
5 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
farrenj (110 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Germany
Pudge (134 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
woland (134 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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