Finished: 09 PM Mon 18 Feb 19 UTC
Featured Gunboat-813
1 days /phase
Pot: 840 D - Spring, 1912, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
17 Feb 19 UTC Good game all!
18 Feb 19 UTC Indeed. Thought you were about to go for the solo so my next turn was going to be me mobilizing north lol...
18 Feb 19 UTC Might have been too late turkey.
18 Feb 19 UTC Surprised Russia voted draw.
18 Feb 19 UTC gg all
18 Feb 19 UTC I might have been able to solo but Turkey was such a good partner in the most-fun juggernaut I've ever been a part of that soloing would have diminished my satisfaction. That is rarely the case, btw, but if felt right in this case.
18 Feb 19 UTC I am glad it felt right :) I have had few successful juggernauts and this one did work well
18 Feb 19 UTC Turkey, you could have gently taken a Russian SC, without stabbing him to avoid this late danger we are facing had the game continued. You do this by taking just one SC, but NOT moving a bunch of units towards him It's a safety and balancing move, you should have done that.
18 Feb 19 UTC I wasn't concerned about Russia taking anything just yet and wanted to honor the trust put in earlier in the game. If this next turn played out, my armies all would've mobilized along my line while also threatening Sevastopol. I think I would've held, or taken a couple of SCs before it would've all been said and done.
18 Feb 19 UTC But thank you for the tip either way :)
18 Feb 19 UTC well, letting someone get to 14 SC, and more importantly, to his position, is extremely dangerous, as I do not have the north stalemated. We are lucky he was generous and drew now, because I think a Russian solo from this position was easily achievable. Most players, from his current position, would solo.
18 Feb 19 UTC One more question for you turkey, were your fleets going to hold or pour at me?
18 Feb 19 UTC hold, or move on me in force, which had you ordered?
18 Feb 19 UTC I ordered a hold at this point. I took your moves to indicate you were giving up holding on me and focusing on getting a stalemate with Russia, so I didn't want to deter that any further. I was assuming Russia was mobilizing based off the last turn. I had this setup:
Tus -> Ven
Pie Support Tus
Greece -> Serbia
Trieste support Greece
Con -> Bulg
Ankara -> Armenia
Ionian -> Aegean
Tunis Hold
Tyr SHold Tunis
Adr SHold Trieste
18 Feb 19 UTC okay, good, that's smart, because if you have done a full scale invasion against me, I would have thrown the game to Russia. You saw that risk right?
18 Feb 19 UTC Indeed I did - You telegraphed it in Fall 1911. I have only ever seen a Juggernaut go down to just Turkey and Russia once. I was playing cautiously from this point forward based off the Fall 1911 moves.
18 Feb 19 UTC And I have thrown many a game to players out of spite lol...
18 Feb 19 UTC okay, good job everyone, well played.
18 Feb 19 UTC by the way, as as interesting side point, I am Russia's mentor in the mentor program. Of course, we did not know that we were both in this game until after the game, as we only discuss games afterwards, not during.

Anyone else want any feedback?
18 Feb 19 UTC Austria are you super new?

There is sort of an unwritten rule on Rumania that's worth noting: "Never in the spring"

This applies to Turkey, Russia and Austria pretty much all the time from 1901 through about 1903 or 1904. Rumania tends to be a death trap for everyone in spring moves, go for the money in the fall, not the spring. There are exceptions, of course, but often the guy in Rumania in the spring isn't there in the fall!

Going straight into Rumania in 1901 is suicidal...

Belgium is kind of the same thing.

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Russia
rjlace23 (894 D)
Drawn. Bet: 120 D, won: 280 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Turkey
worcej (388 D)
Drawn. Bet: 120 D, won: 280 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
France
Tugster (8654 D)
Drawn. Bet: 120 D, won: 280 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
England
cb6000 (149 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 120 D
Italy
czechveck (1572 D)
Defeated. Bet: 120 D
Germany
thebullmoose (2936 D)
Defeated. Bet: 120 D
Austria
thamunda (124 D)
Defeated. Bet: 120 D
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