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Pot: 707 D - Autumn, 1902, Diplomacy
Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
England, France, Italy, Germany, Austria, Turkey, Russia
~Sun 12 PM UTC Spring, 1902: Turkey (ex-Italy?): Christmas has now passed. No excuses for NMRs anymore:-)
~Sun 12 PM UTC Spring, 1902: And another NMR..
~Sun 12 PM UTC Spring, 1902: OH CRAP
~Sun 12 PM UTC Spring, 1902: OH CRAPPPPPP
~Sun 12 PM UTC OH FUCK
~Sun 12 PM UTC I don't know where to bury myself. I have been speaking with everybody, thought I submitted the orders, waited online to see how it proceeds and BOOM. The orders didn't go through.

I don't know how to start to apologize.
~Sun 12 PM UTC So I'm pretty pissed here actually. I had a great start last game (I'm old England, two build opening), we cancel that game, only to NMR in this game in the third turn again. For this game I didn't have much time to do press at the start due to real life. But I was like, whatever, let's get this game going, as you all seemed nice to play with. Here I am in a mess of a game for me and now in a much more unbalanced situation than in the previously cancelled game. Italy missing a turn at the start is less damaging than Turkey doing the same..
~Sun 12 PM UTC Wtf kind of retreat is this Turkey?
~Sun 12 PM UTC Do you think your moves were perfect Germany? Please, let's have no arguing in global.

It is a shame Turkey NMRed. I think that this is only really damaging for Turkey, not for the whole board like an Italian NMR is. If you think Turkey is more important than Italy, you are wrong in the opinion of most players. I have read countless times in theory that Italy controls the pace of the board.

I am sure nearly all the board just wants to play on and move on from this. Save the diplomatic emotions for private chats guys!
~Sun 12 PM UTC @Germany - the retreat was a stupid reaction to the realization I NMRed. As far as I am concerned, just split my points now. I am ashamed to the depths of my soul.
~Sun 03 PM UTC Ok let us - all - not exaggerate : these messages have been a little dramatic. Diplomacy can be that way, but there is imo no need ; it is still only a - highly amusing - game. My feeling is:
- Germany : sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose some. I will be open to playing this again with all of you in a next game as well.
- Turkey : no issues with your NMR if this is exceptional. Your retreat to Alb however is something I also do not understand. I would have guessed you would otherwise have taken Bul or perhaps Rum. Not doing that and retreating to Alb makes the southeast battle a bit unbalanced.
~Sun 03 PM UTC I see no reason why by the same logic as last time we shouldn't cancel or draw this one right now as well.

To all who address me, in no way are my moves and or play perfect. Not even good this game actually. And I absolutely agree that you win and lose. However, the whole point of rebooting the game was so we have an NMR free game. I have put time and effort in the previous game (which was vaporized by a cancel) and I'm putting time and effort into this game. An NMR later, the previous cancel was unnecessary, and the time I put into rebooting this whole thing game was apparently for nothing. THAT is the reason I'm pissed, not because I win or loose.
~Sun 03 PM UTC Okay I'm putting my cancel vote in. Maybe third time is a charm?
~Sun 10 PM UTC Turkey, dear god that retreat is the clearly inferior option. Your position is not unsalvageable. I hope that you'll continue to play.

Germany, the difference between this NMR and the last is: the last NMR was on the very first turn. We've already invested a lot more into this game. That being said, if others wish to cancel I'm open to it.
~Mon 05 AM UTC I am voting cancel, but by all means I don't feel I have a say in this.

Once again, I am terribly sorry. This was a mistake, and the retreat was a mistake that was done 5 seconds later.
~Mon 09 AM UTC England, I put more effort into the cancelled game, which we played on into 1902 actually. So it's a bit a matter of perspective. Turkey, don't worry about it, but guys please don't cancel anymore games due to one NMR. Just play on, as it's a pity of the effort that was put in and as we can see here, it just happens.

As I'm pretty sure this game won't be cancelled, which by the same logic it should, my motivation to keep playing is very, very low. I have asked to be replaced and just wanted to take this opportunity to say goodbye. Since I have absolutely no idea who any of you are, if I run into you guys in the future hope we have a good game then.

Cheers.
~Mon 12 PM UTC That is a pity Germany. I would say to stay on, but If not: Good luck and see you in a next game!
~Tue 02 AM UTC Moderator: (Szpoti): The match has been paused to allow a takeover.
~02:36 PM UTC The takeover is now in process and I will get to press as soon as possible. Thanks for having me, good luck all!
~03:45 PM UTC Moderator: (Claesar): Game unpaused, have fun all!

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Anon England
(Anonymous)
Bet: 101 D, worth: 101 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Anon France
(Anonymous)
Bet: 101 D, worth: 101 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Anon Germany
(Anonymous)
Votes: Draw, Cancel
Bet: 0 D, worth: 101 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Anon Austria
(Anonymous)
Bet: 101 D, worth: 101 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Anon Italy
(Anonymous)
Bet: 101 D, worth: 101 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Anon Turkey
(Anonymous)
Votes: Draw, Cancel
Bet: 101 D, worth: 101 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Anon Russia
(Anonymous)
Bet: 101 D, worth: 101 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
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