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Finished: 05 AM Fri 08 Feb 19 UTC
Modern Madness the Maddening Legendary Edition
20 hours /phase
Pot: 70 D - Spring, 2009, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
30 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: All right, Poland... I really don't care if you keep fighting me, but I need to beat back Egypt
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: Oh my friend Ukraine, so what do you propose? Can i have my lovely bielo and Moscow back?
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: Poland, you should turn West, my friend!
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: England, Germany and Egypt have all but declared a permanent alliance.
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: Eventually, sure Poland... I need to move to Bielo and CRP this turn to take on Volga
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: No... that's bad. You guys can do better. Don't discuss openly... just... You can do better.
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: no... I think I'll write all my orders out. I'll be moving Madagascar to Finland and Saxony to Iran with support from the United States Air Force
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: I am confused by the color. Who says Poland should turn west? Who says you guys can do better? seems germany and spain has same color ^_^
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: Actually, fine... so assuming you guys kiss and make up...

Lit and Sev are takeable by Ukraine, unstoppably. Holding Sev could rely on preventing Rostov - Don. And Poland has to keep someone in Gda to prevent the retreat from Lit. If Gda supports Lat - Lit, that frees up Biel to move to CRP in spring... which means Poland can do Kha - Don in spring with the intention of bouncing Kha with CRP if the move succeeds.

Poland... You have potential gains in Berlin, Frankfurt, and maybe Munich. You just need to advance War - Pru, Kra - Sil, and Cze - Sax. That will open up options for you to the west. Slovakia should retreat to Hungary or Podolia to put you at ease.
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: Germany hasn't spoken in awhile... it's me, Espana!
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: Further note... If Ukraine taking Lit and Sev works out, Ukraine should probably offer up Biel and/or Moscow next year (and I would turn against them if everything else played out and they reneged on that).
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: There hasn't been much to say.

Poland, I would kindly request you not attack me. As I said previously, the only reason I moved against you before was because you and Ukraine seemed to be in a death spiral. As soon as you two indicated peace, I moved out, as you can see. I'm vacating Lithuania for you as well, which I hope Ukraine respects.

Spain is on its way to a solo. Thats not hyperbole either, it's easy to see. Spain is 13 SC's away, and Britain and I represent 16. We aren't doing great, and if either of us crumbles from a back attack, nothing can stop Spain.

Which means Britain, Egypt and I are all that stand in the way of that right now. Ukraine and you, Poland, could help us, and I'm fairly certain thats the only way a solo won't occur. I would reccomend Ukraine and Egypt stop fighting and everyone focus on Spain. Otherwise Egypt has to hope they win against Ukraine and survive the snowballing Spanish. Given that Spain is starting to gain ground in the south, I wouldn't trust those odds. I expect to be called a doomsayer, by Spain at least, but I don't see any other outcome unless we five unite.
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: As Germany himself admits... 13 SC away!!! I haven't even gained 1 in years. I'm not even dreaming of a solo at this point, but we can certainly reduce the number of powers on the map before we draw.
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: It's SoS scoring. Reducing powers doesn't really help. Spain wants to reduce Egypt because they have the second highest score.. And then probably solo
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: Sorry about that Poland, I guess I didnt save the move for Lithuania? I could have sworn I did. Well, either way it'll still be yours for when it counts in Autumn.
31 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2007: Also, the more the powers on the map are reduced, the closer Spain creeps to a solo.
02 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2007: We cool for a draw?
02 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2007: I am
02 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2007: I have my vote in. I suspect everyone except Spain is probably good to draw, or at least I hope so.
03 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: Hi ukraine, i suggest we peace and you start looking after your 2 other much stronger neighbour
03 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: yeah, no, I'm already at peace, Poland...
03 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: Egypt is really my main concern at the moment
03 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: @Egypt I'd really consider stopping working with Spain as they have moved even further East (into the Balkans), which cuts into your possible SC from Ukraine/Poland, as well as bringing them closer to the 33 SC solo
@Germany/Poland/Ukraine Let me know if I can help you in anyway
03 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: Britain, if you could support hold Volga with Gorky, that'd be amazing
03 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: Also... Spain is definitely going for a solo.
03 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: I'm not working with Spain - Spain is my primary enemy, but currently there's nothing either of us can do to gain ground on each other
03 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: As far as I see it, this game should be a four way draw between me, Britain, Germany and Spain - the reason I think this is because Britain Germany and I have borders with much more of Spain's force meaning we can actually hold them, whereas Poland and Ukraine basically just touch them, and as Spain's recent move into Ukraine shows, they can really present a wall to Spain. So I am suggesting that me, Britain and Germany divide up Poland and Ukraine while stopping Spain from getting further into our territory and all will be well
03 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: Then we might even be able to defeat Spain and get a three way victory
04 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: Hi egypt, if you want to stop spain solo, you should be attacking spain ratger than dividing me and ukraine. You are just helping spain grows in that way
04 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: hi Ukraine, please let me know how Kiev can support your move, assuming you don't plan to attack Kiev....
04 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: I have no intention of attacking Kiev, such a move would be the downfall for both of us
04 Feb 19 UTC Spring, 2008: Egypt, if you think for one second that you can get to a draw with Spain you're dreaming. Spain is slowly breaking through in the north and finally stabbed Ukraine. Why would they stop their momentum and draw with you, when they can solo?

Stop attacking Ukraine and Poland, work with them to repel Spain. It's the only way a draw will happen. If you keep up the attack you're essentially helping throw the game to Spain.
04 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: Spain is about to claim 4 SC's without Egyptian help. Even then, the most the gain can be reduced to is 3.

If Ukraine falls here, Spain becomes unstoppable.

Britain, the fleet in heligoland is moving to Holland, and I request support. Ruhr will attack Belgium, so Holland can be reclaimed.
04 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: hi Germany, can you support my slo in attacking Austria?

hi Ukraine, you can likely reclaim hungary
04 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: Very well, I will stop my attack on Ukraine entirely. Ukraine, as a sign of goodwill I will vacate Kharkov and allow you to retake it. Otherwise, I will not push forward at all and if I am able to, I will impede the movements of Spain as much as possible
04 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: Thank you, egypt. I will rewrite my orders to move all my forces towards spain
05 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: I will be disbanding Volga
05 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: Hi all, shall we draw here?

Hi germany, can you support me to austria next round?
05 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: Sure thing, sorry I didnt see your previous request in time
05 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: Hey guys, I'm distracted by some real life stuff, as should be evident from my two misorders this year. I've entered a draw, but will hold out however long. Gg either way.
05 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: I'm happy to keep playing if anyone else wants to
05 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: I’m prepared to draw
05 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: My draw order is still in from earlier
05 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: My draw vote is also in
05 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: So it's only Egypt... ;)
06 Feb 19 UTC Autumn, 2008: Aw come on, no one wants to play?
06 Feb 19 UTC Well then there we go. Good game everyone
06 Feb 19 UTC Good game all
06 Feb 19 UTC GG All!
06 Feb 19 UTC good game!

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Spain
Scobos (430 D)
Drawn. Bet: 7 D, won: 37 D
21 supply-centers, 21 units
Egypt
Fluffy Freddo (295 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 17 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Britain
em01 (323 D)
Drawn. Bet: 7 D, won: 7 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Poland
Eric1984 (3612 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 6 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Germany
Drawn. Bet: 7 D, won: 3 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Ukraine
What1881 (152 D)
Drawn. Bet: 7 D, won: 3 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
France
tr1285 (128 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Italy
Defeated. Bet: 7 D
Russia
IsaacGS459 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 7 D
Turkey
TheWizard13 (112 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
BossMan227 (100 D)Egypt (Spring, 1999) with 8 centres.
rocketboy (100 D)Poland (Spring, 2003) with 8 centres.
VP90 (100 D)Turkey (Spring, 1995) with 7 centres.
WildGiantRedCats (0 D X)France (Autumn, 1994) with 4 centres.
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