Finished: 11 PM Thu 10 Jan 19 UTC
Modern Madness 3: Re-Maddened
1 days /phase
Pot: 100 D - Autumn, 2000, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
04 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1998: If I were bigger than you and Russia I would consider it, but as it stands I am vulnerable to a rear guard action if I waver.
04 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1998: @ Russia. There is a minor (less believable) reason. And larger (still probably not very satisfying from your perspective) reasons for militarization in Scandinavia. I moved to Ska because I wanted to see if I could use it to take Bhm next turn (as you had not supported me there earlier, not through malicious intent I think). I moved to Bhm to protect Berlin and Denmark. North Sea and Norwegian Sea are obviously important military points for me.
04 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1998: That being said, I have no reason to suspect you are out to get me except paranoia...
04 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1998: If Russia, you would like to dictate one of my builds to gain trust, I can offer not building a fleet. I would like to wait for builds to pass before negotiating further DMZs.
06 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1999: I am prepared to draw whenever you guys are. I assume next turn will be fine for most of us (Poland and Italy will be completely destroyed)?
06 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: Next turn works for me.
06 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: @France Why the move into the agreed DMZ of Saxony, as well as my territory, Slovakia? Could you please withdraw your troops
@Britain I'm good to draw once Poland and Italy are eliminated. Let me know if I can do anything for you!
06 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: no worries russia. just a precaution to encourage a draw vote (which I have already cast).
07 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: Oh goodie. Then I also shall cast my draw vote too!
07 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: I will wait until next turn to cast my draw vote.
07 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: going to need an extra year to eliminate Egypt
07 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: See you in 2020!
07 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: wow France, such aggressive moves towards Russia :O
07 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: Oof.
07 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: Draw vote cast.
07 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: what surprised me was Poland's support of Russia! No matter just a little skirmish on the edges. We'll be home soon.
07 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1999: I believe that me and Turkey have reached a stalemate line.
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: Are we going to draw or is there unfinished business in Czechoslovakia?
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: I think that if France and Russia intend to draw, they should both draw this turn because I fear a conflict is rising there. So if you two are looking for a draw, I would highly recommend doing so now, otherwise...
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: I’m still okay with draw. Just waiting for Egypt to fall.
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: If we are going for a draw, I think we might just want to leave Egypt in. It's just one SC, and this is SOS. Another turn might be disastrous.
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: My draw vote is in
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: @France I'm not sure why you decided to move against me in Czech Republic and Krakow, as well as continue to violate the DMZ you so desperately wanted. That isn't a very peaceful move towards a possible ally :(
@Britain/Turkey Let me know if I can do anything for you!
@Spain Hey over there!
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: @ Russia, you just have to stay chill! We are all good over here.
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: Hmmm.
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: Fourth World War lads, pick your sides...
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: I've certainly picked mine!
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: @Russia, what's happening in Scandinavia?
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: @Spain and France, reconfirming DMZ at MAO
08 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 2000: Confirmed, who has yet to draw?
08 Jan 19 UTC I will draw as soon as Egypt is eliminated
08 Jan 19 UTC Spain why you trying to move on me
08 Jan 19 UTC seriously it's really uncool for France and Spain to be making aggressive moves like this when they have already put in their Draw votes
09 Jan 19 UTC @Russia, I really hope Prussia and Silesia aren't going to go for Berlin, I would love to stay neutral in this conflict.
09 Jan 19 UTC I am DMZing as many territories in Scandinavia as possible Russia, I hope we have enough trust built up to not fight over this.

France, I will re-occupy Belgium and Holland, that is for protection of my territories, it will be done almost exclusively with fleets, so you should not fear for your inland territories.
09 Jan 19 UTC @England, if I were you I'd just continue self-supporting. Don't rock the boat just prior to drawing. Let Turkey defeat Egypt and let's be done.
09 Jan 19 UTC Bielo to Warsaw, Warsaw to Silesia, Lith to Gdansk, Gdansk to Prussia... These don't look like "let's all draw next turn" moves. But okay. We'll see what Russia thinks.
09 Jan 19 UTC @ England and France, What should I do?
09 Jan 19 UTC @Spain, I am waiting to see what mother Russia does. If we don't get an invasion, I am re-locking my draw vote and we are ending this game, if there is an attack I am holding re-occupying territories bordering Russia and France and am holding off there. I recommend you wait to see what happens next turn too.

Little fish like us always get a little bit of luck when the "sharks of the world" fight, you just have to pick the right side.
09 Jan 19 UTC @spain, let’s just self-support and wait for year end
09 Jan 19 UTC I agree with Turkey- the aggressive moves made by Spain and France were uncalled for. We have all agreed to draw once Egypt is eliminated, which is in just one turn. I'm also not sure why you are so fearful of an invasion from me Britain as I have not moved against you once this entire game. I also abided by the DMZ France desperately called for in Saxony, Prussia, and Silecia until Czech Republic was forcibly taken from me after France attacked my SC and broke the DMZ multiple turns in a row, causing me to move to Prussia and Silecia for defense. I am not the aggressor here. I seriously hope you reconsider your qualms about me Britain because who knows- maybe France will get greedy again and this time decide to move against you! I hope we can continue to maintain our peace Britain
09 Jan 19 UTC Russia, I do not fear invasion from you, I trust you completely. I am expectant of continued war, maybe I judge in such a way because I am a warmonger, I completely believe your honest intentions Russia.
09 Jan 19 UTC 5 left. Let’s do draw or announce your intent not to. I’ve done draw.
10 Jan 19 UTC Draw vote submitted
10 Jan 19 UTC I think the "warmonger," Britain is who we are waiting on
10 Jan 19 UTC Gg. I would totally have been down to thinning out the draw but couldn’t really do it being the pie in the middle.
10 Jan 19 UTC I was planning to take Frankfurt this turn and join Russia in a full invasion. Before that, I was planning to take Scandinavia, and before that, I wanted to get France to attack Spain with me. The global chat makes things quite difficult.
10 Jan 19 UTC GG all
10 Jan 19 UTC GG
10 Jan 19 UTC good game!

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Russia
em01 (370 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 33 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
Turkey
mikolaj420 (366 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 30 D
16 supply-centers, 15 units
France
Hauta (1618 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 20 D
13 supply-centers, 12 units
Britain
Vasisubani (133 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Spain
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Egypt
Drakon (85 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Germany
Jefe (9 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Italy
gordonpup (1585 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Poland
What1881 (74 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Ukraine
barrenprutt (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
MattMan243 (100 D)Ukraine (Autumn, 1996) with 0 centres.
Madmaloney (100 D)Ukraine (Autumn, 1994) with 6 centres.
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