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Finished: 10 PM Fri 07 Dec 18 UTC
American Election 1
1 days /phase
Pot: 100 D - Autumn, 2008, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Rulebook press, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
27 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 2005: a humble request, from the fearless leader of Quebec, now exiled in Montreal:

Peace between Quebec, NY, Florida and Cuba. There are two bigger fish to fry that threaten us all.
27 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 2005: NY: Why help someone that has invaded your SC's at every opportunity? Consider working with Mexico and I before choosing to flip to Quebec's side.

Cuba: Remember that Mexico has helped you at every opportunity. Unfortunately, you had to disband your Costa Rica army... otherwise, you'd have been sitting pretty in Panama by now.
27 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 2005: I asked him to provide support again but he never gave it and instead marched for Peru's other center. I have no reason to trust him or work with him anymore
27 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 2005: So the man gives you a support in 3 separate times, and the one time he goes in for a wide-open SC instead of supporting you in makes him treacherous and untrustworthy? Talk about hairpin triggers!
27 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 2005: If it means anything I am willing to stop my current wars and focus on this new alliance.

Cuba there is bad blood between us but i'm willing to give it all back if we can commit to this together
27 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 2005: it's a team game now everyone, mex and cali are too big.
27 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 2005: In any matter, my offer to NY still stands.
27 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: Florida out here preaching that his feud with Cuba is done and dusted, then moves into two of his SC's. Priceless.
27 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: Nothing that i cant be reversed once he responds. Your messages are more likely to bring us together than apart. Your desperate attempts will fail you
27 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: ;)
27 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: I’d like to point out to NY that I’ve held up my end of the bargain. Do you want to join with us finally, or debase yourself for California’s rancid scraps?
27 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: Why they gotta be rancid though?
27 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: you tell me. you're the one who is keeping them in the fridge too long.
27 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: California you're doing a very good job of getting us to work against you. Are you doing this on purpose or do you not understand diplomacy
27 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: the real question is does Mexico realize he has the best shot at a solo victory? if so, will he take that shot?
27 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: The reaaaaaalllll question though is: How will Peru vote?
27 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: Fuck Peru.
28 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: Cuba I’d like to point out the fact that you never asked me anything, it was always me who asked you if i could support you
28 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: ...໒( ಥ Ĺ̯ ಥ )७ Why?
29 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 2006: very well. ashes, hellfire and pestilence shall be poured on my enemies.
01 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2006: I did a pretty good job of getting people to attack me, didn’t I Florida?
01 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2006: everyone loves a smug smartass!
04 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: So like, gg?
04 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: still hoping that everyone comes to their senses. including Mexico.
04 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Man I don’t want to break an alliance so efficient, you are just gonna lose it’s life
04 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Many an empire has fallen due to similar misplaced hope. We are all going to lose, and yes indeed it is life. But it doesn’t have to be this way.
04 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: This game is more fun when played in an alliance that has equally benefited both parties. That's my two cents.
04 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: I was a freshman in college, too once.
04 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: In all seriousness, I’ve played many a game with people who self righteously claim this philosophy. Fair enough I guess, but you’ll have to pardon me while I roll my eyes and move on to the next game.
05 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: As much as I hate it I agree with Mexico and California. It’s much more fun to make an alliance an stick to it till the end
05 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Sorry you were outgunned, Quebec.
05 Dec 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: i guess we are playing different games. the point of the game is to win....drawing is second. drawing is definitely easier though, and you don't have to deal with icky feelings, so i understand that.

still, either mexico or cali could choose to take the win. it is on the table for either. or the lazy route. up to you i guess. a pity i have had to deal with a brain dead NY as a neighbor.
06 Dec 18 UTC Spring, 2008: GameMaster: Jxck was banned: Severe cheating. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
06 Dec 18 UTC Spring, 2008: Moderator: (Claesar): Game paused to facilitate replacement.
06 Dec 18 UTC Spring, 2008: Moderator: (Claesar): Have fun all!
06 Dec 18 UTC A modest proposal. Since the amazingly efficient two way alliance that has dominated the game has been exposed to be full of 50% “severe cheaters”, I suggest a draw or cancel is in order.
06 Dec 18 UTC Sorry that this happened. One thing I hate more than losing is cheating. California has nothing to do with it I’m sure. He’s a good player.
06 Dec 18 UTC I agree we should all vote to cancel. The game has been ruined by the 'Severe Cheater" tag. It sucks for California that his ally was branded as such but still a cancel order is needed
07 Dec 18 UTC Yep. You’ll see I voted to draw and or cancel. It’s a shame.

I must admit I’m curious as to what “severe cheating” means. Never seen that adjective used. But I’m fairness, I concede.
07 Dec 18 UTC Moderator: (Claesar): The banned player was cheating in another game, but playing fairly here. This game was unspoiled, hence I allowed it to continue with a replacement.
07 Dec 18 UTC Moderator: (Claesar): I'm glad you all drew instead of cancelling. You all deserved to win here for a game well played.
07 Dec 18 UTC Yeah i may have gotten backstabbed by 4 people and completely murderd but it was very fun watching
07 Dec 18 UTC gg
07 Dec 18 UTC i did enjoy stabbing/being stabbed as per usual.
07 Dec 18 UTC If only New York has cooperated more we could have made a stand
07 Dec 18 UTC indeed. pretty sure he was just mad at me too much for cooperation. understandable.
07 Dec 18 UTC I played it exactly how I wanted to. But you’re right, wouldn’t have happened with NY’s help
07 Dec 18 UTC Without**

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Mexico
Frank9 (492 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 17 D
20 supply-centers, 20 units
California
DaButterMan (279 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 17 D
20 supply-centers, 19 units
New-York
SmuRumS (385 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 17 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Florida
Locke- (1276 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 17 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Quebec
ishirkmywork (1349 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 17 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Cuba
Varme (57 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 17 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Texas
cardboardbox (457 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
British-Columbia
legaala (224 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Peru
Lord_J (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Heartland
BiggleBobb (45 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
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