Finished: 10 AM Wed 05 Dec 18 UTC
Private Honesty-3
2 days /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1905, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Unranked
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
18 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 1903: but freedom? I'm fighting for the fredom of the people of marsellies
18 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 1903: They have freedom from refresh problems.
18 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 1903: lol...
not from a facist dictator...
19 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 1903: Our leader is totally not a fascist dictator! (sorry I’m late)
19 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 1903: Is your leader the slowest dictator, then?
21 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 1904: Russia... peace? Or are we still at war?
21 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 1904: And Italy... the British Navy wishes to continue our Progression. Tyr Sea this season.
21 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 1904: @Britain I'll try moving out of Tyrrhenian Sea. But it may fail
21 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 1904: Is there a procedure for declaring peace? England already declared they only wanted St Petersburg, so as far as I'm concerned that is a declaration of peace.
21 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 1904: I accept Russia's definition... Peace has broken out in NE Europe!
21 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 1904: Germany also accepts Russia's peace proposal.
21 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 1904: The German Prussian army proposes to move out of Prussia and move into Silesia.
21 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 1904: Italians are willing to cede Marseille to France if they pull out of Gulf of Lyons
22 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: gulf of lyons moving to marsellies
22 Nov 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: but if you don't leave it as DMZ i will re-declare war.
29 Nov 18 UTC Spring, 1905: Seems many of us have lost steam. I voted draw.
29 Nov 18 UTC Is the Sultan willing to let the British Progression progress?
30 Nov 18 UTC Hey France are we still at war? I only ask because everyone else has voted draw and all of your units are still adjacent to your home centres. Happy to play it out though if this is all part of your master plan.
30 Nov 18 UTC italy... you have no reason to stay in piedmont. leave it.
russia, i agree to peace if you retreat from germany. but right now no peace and no draw with you.
30 Nov 18 UTC austria, why did you go into munich?
30 Nov 18 UTC If we're at war, come get me.
30 Nov 18 UTC i will just wait for you're navy here
30 Nov 18 UTC or army if you are at war with germany
30 Nov 18 UTC austria, italy, anwser
30 Nov 18 UTC austria how are you in munich? no war was declared
30 Nov 18 UTC italy what are you doing in piedemont?
01 Dec 18 UTC France:

(To: Global, from Austria) - Spring, 1903: My nation stands with the rest of the East in combating Western Aggression. The Empire of Austria Hungary formally declares war on the nation of Germany in support of our defensive ally Russia
01 Dec 18 UTC Also I will move out of Piedmont
01 Dec 18 UTC i missed that austria
01 Dec 18 UTC austria
01 Dec 18 UTC until i ready up my next moves
01 Dec 18 UTC you should try to convince me to join you're side
01 Dec 18 UTC or at least be neutral
01 Dec 18 UTC otherwise i will stand with germany
01 Dec 18 UTC otherwise i will stand with germany
02 Dec 18 UTC So when exactly did you stand with Germany?

When you failed to support hold Mun before vacating Bur thereby guaranteeing zero support?
When you deferred a build which could have helped Germany, again guaranteeing zero support?
When Germany, being a good ally, didn't retreat into your territory but instead disbanded, and yet you still didn't move to offer support but instead went to Paris for no reason?

Let's face it, you've been on our side all along.
02 Dec 18 UTC bad decisions is NOT standing with austria
02 Dec 18 UTC if you won't come up with better arguments i will declare war on austria
02 Dec 18 UTC Germany invaded first Bohemia without permission, and attempted to invade Galicia, both Austria's territory by right.

Austria was not the initial aggressor in this matter, defended themselves admirably, and now seeks peace as indicated by all our draw votes.
02 Dec 18 UTC a draw vote is not a try to peace. abou you're german agression claims, i will consider it, but you probably need more as i value even informal alliences like that i have with germany.
02 Dec 18 UTC a draw vote is not a try to peace. abou you're german agression claims, i will consider it, but you probably need more as i value even informal alliences like that i have with germany.
03 Dec 18 UTC germany convinced me. i will make a new game and post the invite code here. i will draw once the new game starts.
03 Dec 18 UTC http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=232477
03 Dec 18 UTC invite code: Honesty
03 Dec 18 UTC It's a pass from me. I've played high stakes games that were more honest than this one.
03 Dec 18 UTC Its a pass from me too, same grounds as Russia.
03 Dec 18 UTC Before creating a new game I'd recommend creating a clearer set of rules you'd like people to abide by. Some of the suggestions in the first forum thread were a good starting point, and I'm sure you'd get 7 players together on the forum using this approach.

I also don't think unranked is a useful way to play these games. The goal is still to win, right? So it helps if people have points on the line. I don't personally play any differently, but almost every unranked game I've been in has ended prematurely due to people not caring enough to continue. This current game is no exception!
03 Dec 18 UTC ^
04 Dec 18 UTC "Honesty" needs to be defined. It almost seemed in this game that 'honesty' meant 'having a role-play reason that makes sense." That is not quite honesty.
04 Dec 18 UTC ^ #notallgulags

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Austria
ByzantineX (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
6 supply-centers, 5 units
Russia
LeonWalras (376 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
6 supply-centers, 4 units
England
dargorygel (626 D Mod (G))
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
France
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
Italy
ItsHosuke (276 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Germany
rick258 (107 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
4 supply-centers, 5 units
Turkey
RagingIke297 (147 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
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