Stomp a Mudhole - webDiplomacy

Heffomite, Claesar, Tugster, Pantalone, dagabs0, Lord Bolton, palesman

28 Oct 18 UTC	gg
28 Oct 18 UTC	Dagabs0 we always seem to be neighbors. That explains my poor record perhaps.
28 Oct 18 UTC	Smart move to draw here, we were risking an English solo.
28 Oct 18 UTC	We are very fortunate England accepted the draw.
28 Oct 18 UTC	Tugster would've helped me keep Iberia, if you stopped pressuring him with your fleets.
28 Oct 18 UTC	I was done. The prior move was on the assumption he was moving west and my fleet may be needed at some point if France collapsed. Of course if I'd known it was Tugster I'd have taken him out instead!
28 Oct 18 UTC	England, you should have kept going to get Munich, Paris and breast. Then see if we set up properly.
28 Oct 18 UTC	Turkey, it was Italy's job to move west and help me. If you weren't threatening him, I'm sure he would've followed up on my nudge to North Africa already.
28 Oct 18 UTC	Of course I would have. Also Austria to Albania and start supporting ionian frees up one fleet of mine as well.
28 Oct 18 UTC	The best move by turkey is situations like this is to move all unnecessary units towards Syria.
28 Oct 18 UTC	Move Bulgaria to Ankara, fleets in East med, Smyrna and Syria. Then Austria and Italy are free to hold the line. Going back, turkey should have never taken Greece.
28 Oct 18 UTC	No, he didn't need that at all.
28 Oct 18 UTC	The Greece move was 5 turns ago. I was still actively fighting Austria and hoping for 4 way, not 5 way draw. I went for Greece because it kept supporting Austria. By that time the situation changed and I had to accept 5 ways.
28 Oct 18 UTC	The east had unified and I was never going to make it to Tunis or Venice. I do wish to that France had worked with me a bit longer. I was trying to signal for you to take Belgium a couple rounds ago so it would have been a more even growth.
28 Oct 18 UTC	We were all a bit stuck bumping into each other in the Med, so it's understandable. Rarely do I see a situation where Aus/Ita/Tur are all trying to prevent a northern solo while at similar small strength, so we did fine considering.
28 Oct 18 UTC	1) You didn't need Tunis/Venice; you already had Moscow+Warsaw. Take all my centres and win. 2) I never attacked you. I don't understand what you're saying :-) 3) I really couldn't allow you to grow more; you were already past the stalemate line in a bad way.
28 Oct 18 UTC	Claeser, how is it that, you're a mod, you've been here a long time, you're a strong player, and you only have 281 points? Do you donate them to charity?
28 Oct 18 UTC	Also, England, France has a disband, no good choices for that, always press for the kill.... :)
28 Oct 18 UTC	I have 951 points, a mediocre win/draw rate and make poor choices what to do with them :-)
28 Oct 18 UTC	Ah...
28 Oct 18 UTC	Join all the high stakes gunboat games... It's up up up on the points. As long as you live more than you die, of course.
28 Oct 18 UTC	France, I read your Spring 1911 moves as indicating that you had switched to prevent the solo mode, and were no longer working with me. Maybe it's not attacking me, but if you weren't going to do your part in the South we would never get there. My hope was that by clearly attacking you, it would encourage I/A/T to go back to fighting amongst themselves.
28 Oct 18 UTC	My humble opinion is to not vote draw until the map is actually a draw. France has a disband, England gets two new armies because he gained Supply Center and he lost a unit battle, with those new armies you convoy and ruhr is taken Munich for, Austria doesn't have a stalemate line, brest falls, Paris falls, and that whole time you see what Italy Austria and turkey do, if they play well they will draw you, but maybe they won't, maybe they fight or make a mistake.