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Finished: 06 PM Fri 05 Oct 18 UTC
Shwing Batta
2 days /phase
Pot: 25 D - Spring, 8, Finished
The Ancient Mediterranean, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
19 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 3: Alternatively if we bounce over Sardines puts all safety in place. My goal is identical to yours, whichever your preference is really. And thanks for it all
19 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 3: @ I do agree to establish the whoke western area as a DMZ, including the land territories but Tyrrenian, I will probably need that area to move fleets out of Rome quickly.
I notice that your fleet in Berber sea is still there...for any special reason?
19 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 3: You clowns made everything but Egypt a DMZ - have fun spooning each other after I am gone :)
19 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 3: @ Rome: Orders been submitted earlier and hit ready, sorry for that. Ive been looking for your answer.Will move the fleet shortly.
19 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 3: @ Egypt: Thank you
19 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 4: Effing Greece isn't even playing and he's doing better than me!! lol!
21 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 4: @ Persia, Rome I guess we are all good spotters of easy wins. How do we do about Crete?
21 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 4: @ Carthage, Rome how about I take Crete, Carthage takes Sparta and Rome takes Athens
21 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 4: @Carthage, Persia... To be honest I consider Carthage my only ally in this game. I think a 3 way alliance in a 5 players game is a bit too much.
21 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 4: @Carthage Considering my last message I need to take 9 centers and you need 8.
I will support you in Crete. I will try to take the rest of Greece and then I will go for the northern persian empire until I get those 9 centers.
22 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 5: @ Rome, in case I had to choose, would obviously choose you. You are right, a draw of 3 in this variant is not all appealing, but dont forget that to balance a duel, is extremely hard and very much stab-like. So I would consider Persia's invite to a 3way draw.
22 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 5: Also we all know this game is a balance of kept promises and stabs. To be honest, I enjoyed how clean this game was so far (I know you would disagree Egypt, Greece) and would be happy to keep it linear? What do you think?
22 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 5: I agree that it was clean - but a game played like this turns into simple math instead of strategy - no problem - every game is different
22 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 5: @Carthage All that I can say is that I trust you. I do agree this is a complicated scenario for a 2 way draw, but not impossible. I'd like to try and take the risk. :)
22 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 5: @Persia You are right, but the diplomatic skills play a big rol here too. You were unable to get to an agreement, Carthage and I did ;)
22 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 5: @ Greece I will sport you agents Rome if you want it seems we have a common enamine
23 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 5: @Rome, okay, I was reluctant and aimed for a 3 way draw. As Persia betrayed the agreement in between us, I am on it, lets do this! (Btw, your move west from Napoli is alarming
24 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 5: @Carthage I'm on it too. Move to Tyrrenian is not agressive at all. That fleet will hold there, protecting Sardinia and Sicilia, just in case.
24 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 5: @Rome, I dont fancy it - remember your comms on Berber sea, but okay with it. But if we are really on it, I guess we will need the units elsewhere.
24 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 5: @Carthage Take in count that Tyrrenian Sea has no frontiers with your centers, while Berber Sea has with mine. To avoid temptations I was going to propose a bounce in Punic sea from now on. What do you think?
24 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 5: @ Either way, and no issues, just wondered where did the trust go. I would rather focus on Greece and Persia, but if you think its necessary, can do that
24 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 5: @ I've been stabbed so many times that I am a bit paranoic about my allies xD
24 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 5: @ Dont be, bur ordered Carthage to move to the Punic sea. Lets do this game straight as discussed.
24 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 5: @Carthage you said you would back Rome so I assumed that you were going to attack if you want to try for peace I'll be happy to give Alexandria to you ( remember I did give you the better side of the deal to begin) however if I don't hear from you I am confident in the strength of my position as I have shown
25 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 5: @ Persia, I would like a 3 way draw, biz cant do it without Rome
26 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 5: ok just got your message if you want Alexandria I'll retreat from there this turn
29 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 6: message me if you want a three way draw within the next 9 Hours
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: Guys, I have put draw now. I will simply take Alexandria and stop. Please kill off Greece amd put draw as well
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: @ is that okay persia?
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: That's ok to me
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: Thanks Rome. Would you guys cooperate to finoah off Greece quick?
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: that o with me
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: **thats ok with me
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: I will leave Alexandria immediately
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: @Persia If the Cartaghe's plan is ok to you, why did you support Byzantium???
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: I can't believe you goofs need this much press to coordinate a three way draw in a 5 player game. At least it's a little entertaining to read. lol
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: Agree :/
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: In fact I just agree to the draw because I want ti finish this game asap
01 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 6: @Carthage Why that move to Berber Sea?
01 Oct 18 UTC Spring, 7: @Rome, simply to counter any natural stab-like thoughts. I stop there. I also want to fiish the game.
01 Oct 18 UTC Spring, 7: I guess Carthage just didnt read in time.
01 Oct 18 UTC Spring, 7: So 2 quick turns, kill off greece and we are done.
01 Oct 18 UTC Spring, 7: carthage = persia
01 Oct 18 UTC Spring, 7: L...O...fucking...L
02 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 7: @Egypt Having fun? LOL
02 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 7: That was a lot of work for each of you to get a 2 - 5 coin profit. I didn't realize how much fun I could have being the first goon out of the game :)
02 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 7: Its never been about couns i guess;) fun is elsewhere, its a game;)
03 Oct 18 UTC The game is over...honestly I'd have tried to attack Persia and perhaps get a draw with Carthage...but I'm affraid that would have been my end, as probably Carthage and Persia would have allied against me...good game anyway.
03 Oct 18 UTC Think it would have been the case. But thanks all, good game
04 Oct 18 UTC Good Game

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Rome
MakTub (1498 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 11 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Carthage
fadgyasb (205 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 8 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Persia
DF (107 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
Egypt
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Greece
Nyghthype (194 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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