Finished: 07 PM Thu 18 Oct 18 UTC
Featured Gunboat-784
1 days /phase
Pot: 840 D - Autumn, 1915, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
17 Oct 18 UTC Tugster man! Couldn’t you have just turned on France only way we were going to break this stalemate. you are just too nice!!!
17 Oct 18 UTC Actually who was the hold out for the draw? I was assuming england trying to squeeze something or provoke something between me and Italy. But maybe it was kingdroid. I had decided I was never going to stab Italy. (And way to dangerous I think for him stab me most of the end game). I’ve had so many Austria/Italy alliances that just can’t seem to find the trust. But with a couple of wobbles here and there we were pretty rock solid this game
17 Oct 18 UTC I think France has to feel lucky for the points but obviously I respect the record now I see who it is. Rational play says that was a three way. But so it goes
17 Oct 18 UTC back off from my border and I would have done it. Sure, but then If France kamikaze's on me, then I cannot hold my lines south.nor east. If that's what you really wanted, then back off next time.
17 Oct 18 UTC It's not a matter of being nice, it's a matter of accepting certain risks if I do. I stab France, he sends all he's got at me, as punishment. Italy hits him hard, then you stab Italy. There was a lot of risk involved for me to hit France, but sure, of course I thought about it, considered it, looked it over carefully, decided that the risk outweighed the rewards for England.
18 Oct 18 UTC rational play meant => backing off of me, if you actually wanted a three way, back off, if you keep the pressure on, and no thanks.
18 Oct 18 UTC All you had to do was to just give me Berlin, and France was as good as dead. Next time, if you want someone to turn in a situation like this give them more power to do it.
18 Oct 18 UTC Hmm not sure I fully agree while respecting everyone sees and feels it differently. Look at autumn 1911 as a key moment. When you built two armies. Moscow has been deliberately kept free. In the spring Baltic supports Kiel. Armies get convoyed with support to Brest and Belgium. Then afterwards Holland adds its support for Kiel too. France removes two or probably 3 or 4 if he tries
To revenge because Italy would take a couple also. I was specifically in no position to stabbitaly at least for a couple of we’ll broadcast moves (I deliberately put myself in that position at some risk). I think there was a good safe opportunity there. But hey, that’s why we play the game and see it all differently. No criticism just smiling and wishing we could have narrowed it down one more
18 Oct 18 UTC All good
18 Oct 18 UTC I had a draw in the minute the stalemate was established in the south. I was even voting cancel to try to get y'all to draw
18 Oct 18 UTC Also it looks like I was swimming with some very big fish. Glad I escaped with my points. Austria I was basically constantly scared of a stab lol. Also I really fucked up and didn't push west fast enough, but thanks for working with me
18 Oct 18 UTC And yeah, there was no chance I could stab you. As soon as England and France worked out their differences I was locked in hard to our alliance, but it definitely went well and I don't regret it. Glad you felt the same
18 Oct 18 UTC GG. I actually contacted the mods because we had 3 years of no change in centers. I thought Austria was wanting England to stab and was holding out. FYI - Had England stabbed, I would have given everything to Italy.
18 Oct 18 UTC that's what i was hoping for.

I also learned from the mods that i'm not allowed to use cancel to signal. so sorry for that.

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grahamso1 (1156 D)
Drawn. Bet: 120 D, won: 210 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Tugster (8706 D)
Drawn. Bet: 120 D, won: 210 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Kingdroid (202 D)
Drawn. Bet: 120 D, won: 210 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
The Czech (39060 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 120 D, won: 210 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
josemurc (26553 D)
Defeated. Bet: 120 D
lint (425 D)
Defeated. Bet: 120 D
sweetwatersam (8305 D)
Defeated. Bet: 120 D
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