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Finished: 04 PM Fri 16 Nov 18 UTC
Private G(candles)oldfinger
1 days, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 175 D - Autumn, 1919, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Claesar (2882 D Mod)
04 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Moderator: (swordsman3003): Because someone has a pause vote up and this turn ends before the morning, I am unilaterally pausing this game
04 Oct 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Moderator: (Claesar): I would uniliterally unpause this game because I see no pause vote, but not everyone has entered orders.
06 Oct 18 UTC Spring, 1909: Moderator: (swordsman3003): I’m gomna try to protect the game again by pausing with 20 minutes to go
06 Oct 18 UTC Spring, 1909: Moderator: (Claesar): Unpaused.
15 Nov 18 UTC gg
15 Nov 18 UTC Admirable attempt to stop me, Turkey! Well played.
15 Nov 18 UTC England, smart timing on your attack; it did make it very hard for me. But I made some correct guesses and prevailed.
Blake will probably say you should have died valiantly during the 1906 war, but I disagree. This play gave you a fighting chance.
15 Nov 18 UTC Damn kaley you made it hard or even impossible to stop the solo win at the end there. You had a strong position initially and I don't know what you were prioritizing there.

Also, why did you take Rumania with a fleet in 1901 if you didn't want to ally me? I thought you were trying to ally me, which is what I wanted, AND you were being attacked by England, Germany, and Turkey. so that's why I attacked Italy; I thought for sure you would be my ally. Instead you attacked me nonstop the entire game until you lost.
15 Nov 18 UTC And actually I think Kevin's strategy of going limp for many years and making a surprise attack was pretty good. He had a realistic chance of forcing a draw that included him. Autumn 1913 was probably the most interesting single turn of the game. I think different tactical choices by Kevin following that move (ie successful guesses) could have dragged out the game until, say, Turkey was threatening to solo and he got into the draw.

Kevin I can tell that you're learning a lot from your previous experiences and your experiments are pretty interesting to me.
15 Nov 18 UTC I too liked the limp strategy by England, especially when he came back to the action. Can you expand on why Autumn 1913 was so interesting? I'm looking at it and can't figure out what you mean.
15 Nov 18 UTC In hindsight I don't see any way I could have stopped the solo trying to go around through MAO. It takes too long to get units over there, and too easy to stop fleets. Maybe if I had set up a longish convoy and got some armies on the ground in France...
15 Nov 18 UTC I don’t think you could have done any better than you did. It is possible to deny Portugal and Spain to Germany, which you did, and that’s about all you could do. Marseilles is possible but was tactically difficult Due to Germany breaking into Italy.

To win, Germany usually has the English centers, the north, Brest and Paris, and Warsaw and Moscow. That adds up to 16 centers. The winning 2 centers are usually from Iberia, MAR, ViE and/or SEV.

Take a look at my gunboat blog post:
https://brotherbored.com/diplomacy/gunboat-solo-win-intro/germany/

So if we were going to hold back germany, we would have done well to form a line that incorporated Moscow and maybe even Warsaw. That was very possible at one point earlier but we screwed it all up.
So after losing Warsaw and Moscow we HAD to push the line all the way back to Vienna but Russia kept losing (suiciding?) center and units.

Russia should have disbanded that fleet years and years ago, and keeping that fleet was a major tactical decision that made a draw eventually impossible. I tried very hard to cooperate with Russia in the endgame despite Russia bitterly attacking me well past any possibility of eliminating me (I was never ever going to be eliminated faster than Germany could solo win; I slipped through the lines in several places)

Autumn 1913 was a fascinating turn because England went up from 4 centers to SIX and suddenly was a very strong power. Germany also had 6 fleets but they were poorly positioned at that time to fight England. If England hadn’t taken those centers Germany would have won much earlier.
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Germany
Claesar (2882 D Mod)
Won. Bet: 25 D, won: 175 D
20 supply-centers, 17 units
Turkey
DaddyO (233 D)
Survived. Bet: 25 D
9 supply-centers, 11 units
Italy
Verseven (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 25 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Russia
Tanase (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 25 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
Austria
swordsman3003 (12662 D (G))
Survived. Bet: 25 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
England
kbchitown (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
France
sweetwatersam (7999 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
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