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Finished: 02 PM Sat 15 Sep 18 UTC
Modern Madness the Maddening Volume II
1 day /phase
Pot: 50 D - Spring, 2008, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
02 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 2005: The process time saved me. My goodness. AGAIN
02 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 2005: I don't know what it is with me and NMR'ing in this game. I swear my RR is better than this. Hopefully no one is interrupted by this processing issue!
02 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 2005: All right; my apologies for nearly doing it for the 3rd time! Didn't mean to cause such an uproar. Supporting from Tunisia @Britain
03 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 2005: No, I'll support you into the Maltese.
03 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 2005: Okay then. Tyrrhenian as per usual
03 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 2005: @Germany Egypt will fall given a bit of pushing on your side of the field, but in order to balance the power could we request a land redistribution during and after the fall of Egypt? As you can tell, my units are woefully bottlenecked and at this point, I think that Egypt will keep the Western Mediterranean deadlocked until the end.
04 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: Perhaps you should resign yourselves to a draw instead.
04 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: Or do you (France and Britain) really believe that in persisting in pressing for the full destruction of Russia and I, that you are not setting up a situation where Germany gains enough strength to challenge you both for a solo win?
04 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: @Germany, I agree, I think we should redistribute supply-centres. Unfortunately, it's possible that you can solo win with that ammount of sc's.
04 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: @Germany, support me into Rostov from Cau-casus, it's the only way we can break Russia.
04 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: Support into Rostov is a go, Britain.

As for land redistribution, we will see what the next couple of years bring. Depending on how Egypt breaks it might not be as neccesary as you think. Also I'm always nervous of land 'redistribution', i've seen it quickly spiral into "oh i'll just take this too... and this... and this..."
04 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: Oh, absolutely. We need to be careful yet clear with what we ask for. Since you can build anywhere, home SCs don't matter.
05 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: If we wait to long we are at risk at maybe letting you becoming too big, to the point where you'd be able to fight us off both.
05 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: @Germany this IS your call, but we've all been in weird positions throughout this game. Let us know where you stand here. You set it up or say it's a bad idea. I will respect your decision.
06 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2005: I stick by wanting to watch the next two years. If it helps any, i'm only building one fleet on the black sea. I dont need the other units so I hope you take that as a sign of good faith.
06 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 2006: @Germany I respect that. Held my build again
06 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 2006: @Britain Where is SAO going & where is Ireland going?
06 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 2006: I'm just lining them up on the British Isles just to take extra precautions. Germany is getting a little bit too close for my comfort in getting a solo.
07 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2006: I figured as much, and I understand the precaution. Although I will say if I was going to stab I would have a while ago.
07 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2006: Oh and since you're leaving Switzerland empty, France, I'm backing out of Munich.
07 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2006: Britain if you want to put a unit in the North Sea I'm fine with that btw.
07 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2006: No, I'll keep it clear.
07 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2006: If you want you can support Rostov into Georgia, but I understand if you were to go into Ankara or something.
09 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2006: The Italian peninsula has been fully re-liberated. Hurrah.
09 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2006: Don't sound so excited, lol
10 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2006: No, I'm not. It's going to take a lot more time and effort to take out Egypt.
10 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 2007: You've got that support into Georgia now, Britain.
11 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: @Germany, I think we should start the land redistribution.
11 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: @France, supporting you into Maltese from Tyrrhenian.
11 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Roger that
11 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: If you are up to the task @Germany I suggest that we both take 3 SCs. That puts you and Britain at 18, me at 17. That's just the way it has to be as we have 53 SCs combined, and you can destroy Holland, Hamburg, Bielorussia, Lithuania, Kiev, etc. (we don't need to have units on the border with each other as I think we generally trust each other enough.) 64 on the board = 22 for you, 21 for me and Britain or however it works out, but I think that seems prudent
11 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Though I accept my impending death, I am frustrated that it seems like there was only four people vocally active and coordinating and that three of them immediately joined forces, and that made the game into basically a forgone conclusion after that despite my best efforts to create a twist in that story. I hate playing games where not all the players really participate, and games where the allegiances never change in any meaningful way are second worst. When it briefly looked like I was going to rally a counter alliance and when it looked like I had a chance of creating an underdog stalemate line before I missed some turns and remembered the build anywhere impact on the Black Sea, those where the only things that made this game interesting in my opinion. You three may have different interests in what you like about this game than me, but personally if this game ends with you three drawing I'll think that's a profoundly boring game. If any of you reconsider your refusal to treat me as anything other than an enemy you know how to contact me, until then I'll be fighting to the death.
11 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Although we have been rivals since year 0, that is a good point. I think 1998 was the deciding year. Although I NMR'd, it didn't REALLY matter because I had allies in Italy and Britain. When Ukraine NMR'd, it was all over. The counter alliance suffered here. When Italy then NMR'd, that also was detrimental to the counter-alliance.

In the counter-alliance:
a) Russia CD'd
b) Ukraine NMR'd
c) Italy NMR'd

This game was pretty lopsided as a result. I'm not sure if I want to draw with you, but I agree that you have fought valiantly and really played the best game you could.
11 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Many times in life you don't eliminate the opposition. You find common ground, or even just put a stop to the fighting so no more blood is spilt.

Once Russia is eliminated, I will put in a draw vote. Egypt can't win, but I believe at this point, they do deserve to survive.

I also find a draw vastly preferable to any land redistrbution.
11 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: My draw vote has been up since 1996 so I am ready for this to happen. Britain, your call.
11 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Welp, I'm waiting till Russia is gone, I guess.
11 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Well I guess I was thinking that if in the unlikely event my statement changed any opinions it would be to split your alliance and create a 2v2 or 3vGermany, but I won't turn down a draw where I survive. I'm putting in my vote now.
13 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Sorry, Britain. Thought that wasn't going to happen
13 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 2007: Doesn't matter much at this point
14 Sep 18 UTC Draw vote is in!
14 Sep 18 UTC Someone isn't drawing. Britain?
14 Sep 18 UTC I have mine in?
14 Sep 18 UTC I knew we had the fabled creator on our side! It would not be possible otherwise.

Thanks all and well played Egypt. Didn't give up when one could have.
14 Sep 18 UTC GG ALL!!!

High fives to my long term team mates!
14 Sep 18 UTC Does that mean a new one is starting?
14 Sep 18 UTC gameID=228541

Usually, these games are made by the creator @Germany, but this one was made by me. Thanks for humouring me! This one is not, though. With a 20hour/phase, you know it's an Ultra Instinct special.
14 Sep 18 UTC I honestly thought that Egypt or Spain was UIC but UIC (Ultra Instinct Cubone, a nickname I just made) is always doing really well in these games... coincidence? I think so.
14 Sep 18 UTC Thanks for letting me squirm into the alliance. You never really see a France-England-Germany make it to the end but we did it! Again, thanks for letting me be a part of this tripartite and we kept Alsace and Ruhr DMZd and English Channel DMZd almost to the end.
14 Sep 18 UTC Good game everyone
15 Sep 18 UTC I'm amazed and honoured anyone has actually paid attention to me! Glad you enjoy these and I'll see ya in the next one(s)!

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Germany
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 29 D
26 supply-centers, 26 units
Britain
PhoenixFire (771 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 11 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
France
Magnetic24 (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Egypt
RampantLion (939 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 3 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Italy
Darth Baum (1056 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Poland
Matthaus Rex (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
Yaniv (1380 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Spain
Tanteno (126 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Turkey
esther (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Ukraine
Roadhog (239 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
apathetec (513 D)Russia (Autumn, 1994) with 6 centres.
springm4 (45 D X)Turkey (Autumn, 1998) with 0 centres.
Easyman (0 D X)Russia (Autumn, 1999) with 6 centres.
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