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Finished: 01 PM Tue 07 Aug 18 UTC
Featured Gunboat-773
1 day /phase
Pot: 777 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
05 Aug 18 UTC GG all. Well done.
05 Aug 18 UTC Figures, qacper, suicide move by Italy destabilized the entire map, got himself and England killed. Created the German powerhouse. Thanks to Turkey for not killing me at the end.
05 Aug 18 UTC GG, everyone. Congrats to France and Russia for making the draw.

Question for Russia - why bounce the Black four times at the beginning of the game? (i.e. I never saw an Austrian retreat into Rumania in '01 before)
05 Aug 18 UTC Russian Austrian openings were very strange
05 Aug 18 UTC Phew! I'm glad I survived that one. As for the early moves, I admit I've never really got a handle on how to play Russia. But, here's what I was thinking: I thought Austria's opening was particularly hostile. I was most eager not to give him an opening to Ukraine, so I was willing to defer going after Rum (which Austria could've prevented if he wanted to anyway) in exchange for controlling Ukraine and Galicia. I also thought that by empowering Austria so early, this would lock Turkey into conflict with Austria, gaining me an ally. The Black Sea bouncing was largely unrelated to this and had mostly to do with the mid-game. If my plan with Austria worked, Turkey and I would be allies, but whichever of us controlled the Black Sea would have the dominant position and I wanted that to be me. As convoluted as that was, I think it was serving me well until Germany's rise threw everything out of whack. I eventually got Rum and was making progress toward more... Finally, that second Austrian stab really caught me off guard. I thought he'd at least try to set the line against Germany before coming after me. It was all I could do to hang on.
05 Aug 18 UTC Thanks for the explanation. I feel, as Russia, not having the Black makes it hard to get at Turkey, but is not a particularly large threat to me. As Turkey, I feel that it is an absolute necessity to have, both for self-preservation and angles on Bulgaria.

Russia is a tough country to play in gunboat, no doubt.
05 Aug 18 UTC gg, and well played Turkey
05 Aug 18 UTC Thx. You were tough to play against. Life got easier once the German solo threat emerged.
06 Aug 18 UTC Phew! I'm glad I survived that one. As for the early moves, I admit I've never really got a handle on how to play Russia. But, here's what I was thinking: I thought Austria's opening was particularly hostile. I was most eager not to give him an opening to Ukraine, so I was willing to defer going after Rum (which Austria could've prevented if he wanted to anyway) in exchange for controlling Ukraine and Galicia. I also thought that by empowering Austria so early, this would lock Turkey into conflict with Austria, gaining me an ally. The Black Sea bouncing was largely unrelated to this and had mostly to do with the mid-game. If my plan with Austria worked, Turkey and I would be allies, but whichever of us controlled the Black Sea would have the dominant position and I wanted that to be me. As convoluted as that was, I think it was serving me well until Germany's rise threw everything out of whack. I eventually got Rum and was making progress toward more... Finally, that second Austrian stab really caught me off guard. I thought he'd at least try to set the line against Germany before coming after me. It was all I could do to hang on.
06 Aug 18 UTC Sorry! Don't know why that all posted again^

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Germany
mdrltc (1818 D (G))
Drawn. Bet: 111 D, won: 155 D
14 supply-centers, 13 units
Austria
ag7433 (1987 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 111 D, won: 155 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Turkey
Doug7878 (772 D (G))
Drawn. Bet: 111 D, won: 155 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Russia
thebullmoose (2301 D)
Drawn. Bet: 111 D, won: 155 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
France
Tugster (13048 D)
Drawn. Bet: 111 D, won: 155 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
England
Defeated. Bet: 111 D
Italy
Qacper (1122 D)
Defeated. Bet: 111 D
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