Finished: 24 May 18 UTC
Gunboat 101-5
1 days /phase (normal)
Pot: 707 D - Autumn, 1913, Finished
No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
Game won by Tugster (5654 D)
23 May 18 UTC gg Tug
23 May 18 UTC Congrats France.

Italy, it was obvious since 1910 at least if not before that you would not be able to eliminate me. We had a very simple 3wd, what were you thinking?

And that last turn, Sil-Pru, Ukr S Mos-War, Gal S Mos-War would have salvaged the draw.
23 May 18 UTC Xorxes, it was obvious that if you had moved your armies north to Ukraine you could have held Warsaw all by yourself. You worked too hard to take Constantinople. But whatever help you sleep at night.
23 May 18 UTC The very last turn was an extremely difficult guess, I almost did a triple hit on Moscow from Warsaw, so for both of you to guess right on the last turn was very unlikely, but well prior to that, I could have been stopped, as Russia pointed out. Good game all.
23 May 18 UTC I can understand trying to take Con if you're worried about disbanding and leaving a one center Turkey in the draw, but I don't understand the self-bounce in Ukraine or hitting Rum last turn.
23 May 18 UTC There were things both Russia and italy could have done differently that would have set up a draw.
23 May 18 UTC I wanted Con so you could not eliminate me, it had nothing to do with leaving Turkey in the draw or not. If I just wante Turkey out I would have let you take it. But then you'd be in a position to eliminate me.

The self bounce in Ukr and hitting Rum was to show you I was going to throw the game if you kept trying to eliminate me. What was you reason for not letting me take Con if you were not planning to eliminate me? Why keep all your armies south when you needed them to form the stalemate? You were obviously trying to position yourself for a 2wd.

And yes, if either one of us had moved to Ukr the turn before we would have had the draw, but I had no incentive to do it because you were still denying me Con, and what would be the point for me to set up a stalemate line when France could then retreat and let you eliminate me, which you were obviously willing to do?
23 May 18 UTC Xorx, you are overthinking things. Way too much significant of your demise tied to Italy taking Con. Simply put, in a three way draw, with Italy, France, Russia, your fleet in Black Sea and any army units south of the BS were irrelevant to the draw. Me taking you out was an extreme long shot, plus Tug will tell you I'm happy to draw and don't have a killer instinct.
23 May 18 UTC Then I don't understand why you kept denying me Con. What was the point, if not to eliminate me? It only forced me to disband units at the front. What were you thinking, if not trying to eliminate me?

You also moved Tri-Bud instead of Tri-Ven in S12, which would have left Pie vulnerable if France had kept his fleet in Lyo.
23 May 18 UTC except czech, I have no idea who is who until after the game, obviously. I can only estimate level and tactical expertise via styles of play in the current game.

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France
Tugster (5654 D)
Won. Bet: 101 D, won: 707 D
18 supply-centers, 16 units
Italy
czechveck (1980 D)
Survived. Bet: 101 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Russia
xorxes (18649 D)
Survived. Bet: 101 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
England
sweetwatersam (8975 D)
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
Germany
Garagenpunk (45 D)
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
Austria
ag7433 (2351 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
Turkey
2ndWhiteLine (2369 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
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