Finished: 05 AM Tue 13 Mar 18 UTC
Live gunboat for tournament practice
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by jengamaster (2107 D)
13 Mar 18 UTC Thanks Germany.
13 Mar 18 UTC Leo - why no interest in the stalemate line? Dank - sorry for what must have been a confusing MAO move. I could see that you needed fleets down there.
13 Mar 18 UTC What the hell was going on in the west the entire game? Did you guys just not see Turkey? Not even an attempt to form a stalemate line. That could have easily been a 5-way draw. Insane.

Well played Turkey, you deserved it. A very well-executed stab.
13 Mar 18 UTC France totally retreats from the stalemate line and Germany apparently doesn't recognize that Turkey exists. gdi.
13 Mar 18 UTC Leonidas has 135 finished games. Totally inexcusable.
13 Mar 18 UTC Np teacher2, i got that.
13 Mar 18 UTC Thanks Russia. It is always tough in a Juggernaut to know when to go for it.

That really should have been a draw though.
13 Mar 18 UTC France retreated because Germany could not get a clue and he thought I finally stabbed him too (though not to brest, which should have been a clue. I saw Turkey the entire time and figured Germany would wise up. Hell, it could have been a four way draw eliminating Russia, though you wouldnt have deserved it.
13 Mar 18 UTC I think that France only retreated when he realized that Germany was going to screw it up for everyone.
13 Mar 18 UTC Im new, at least it has been a few years since I have played
13 Mar 18 UTC Russia ... um, the game was over before I retreated. hard to see in 5-minute games, I know. Anyway, until the odd German moves at the end, I thought it was a good game. See you guys in the 2 tournaments coming up i hope. -Dan
13 Mar 18 UTC it boggles my mind that someone can have more than 100 games and just tunnel vision on Norway and Paris to the end of the game.
13 Mar 18 UTC I agree. Damn. Well played Jenga.
13 Mar 18 UTC gameID=218562
13 Mar 18 UTC That was literally my first game in probably three years, ...
13 Mar 18 UTC Still. Regardless of how many games youve played, you know when the win is out of a question and to form a stalemate line. Hell, you put your draw vote up. I figured you had seen the light when you did that. But no.
13 Mar 18 UTC And FWIW, I think the line was still salvagable on the first move you retreated France, but it would have taken Germany doing all the right moves. Swe-Den, Ska-Swe, Hol-Kie, Bel - hol, Pic - Bur, bur - ruh
13 Mar 18 UTC I don't think most people forget basic shit like "it takes 18 centers to win" just because they take a break.
13 Mar 18 UTC It seems like the snobbery of thus place hasnt changes much
13 Mar 18 UTC My name is literally "Condescension"
13 Mar 18 UTC Leonidas, we all sacrificed an more than an hour of our lives to a game we should have gotten points out of. I think you can understand that we are angry that poor play ruined the outcome of the game. IF you cant, then call it snobbery if you need to. I know first timers who play better than you did for the last few years.
13 Mar 18 UTC ^

You don't need a bunch of experience to see what you should've done in this game. You just clearly didn't even look at the board or think during your turns whatsoever.
13 Mar 18 UTC hell, even in Spring 09 the line was holdable, FWIW.
13 Mar 18 UTC I guess you guys arent the welcome committee for returnees huh
13 Mar 18 UTC I'd rather the Diplomacy community remain sentient.
13 Mar 18 UTC I dont know the stalemate lines you speak of, and the title of the game has ‘practice’ in the wording
13 Mar 18 UTC Kiel S Berlin, Ruh/Bur S Munich -- those two centers cant be lost. To solo, Turkey must have one of them in almost every situation.

In Autumn 08, had you ordered Mun - Ber, Hol - Kiel, Pic - Bur, Bel - Ruh, Bur - Mun, the game would have been a draw.

I was wrong about Spring 09 because I forgot the bounce Mun.
13 Mar 18 UTC If you had done the same moves in Spring 09, it would have been a one turn coinflip on whether Turkey attacked Mun or Ber. The coinflip would have ended in a stalemate the next turn with you in Baltic.
13 Mar 18 UTC Thanks teacher2, for your charity , and your time,
13 Mar 18 UTC You other, opinionated keyboard warriors can bite me... gnight

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Turkey
jengamaster (2107 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 70 D
18 supply-centers, 15 units
France
dank57 (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
5 supply-centers, 6 units
Germany
Leonidas (635 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
5 supply-centers, 7 units
England
teacher2 (706 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
4 supply-centers, 3 units
Russia
Survived. Bet: 10 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Italy
Javatiger (2932 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Austria
ruinedshadows (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
EstonianLongDong (0 D X)Italy (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
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