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Finished: 30 Mar 18 UTC
Featured slowboat-nofinalizing
1 days /phase (normal)
Pot: 1001 D - Autumn, 1914, Finished
No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
Game won by MadMarx (33047 D (G))
17 Feb 18 UTC Spring, 1905: Moderator: (ghug): Hey guys, someone's had an emergency and asked for a pause until Monday. Let me know if you have any concerns.
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30 Mar 18 UTC Good game everyone, thanks for joining
30 Mar 18 UTC Gg. Congratulations MM.
30 Mar 18 UTC Good game.

Apologies for my NMRs along thew way--was thrown some unexpected curve-balls irl. Also, retaking Constantinople in 1911 was obviously a terrible decision in hindsight. Oh well.

Well played MM.
30 Mar 18 UTC I was shocked at some of Germany's moves along the way. I was trying to support him and he kept attacking, apparently never looking at the big map. Also he seemed to throw the solo for some reason. Don't get it.
30 Mar 18 UTC @Mapu. I always look at the big map. What specific supporting move and year are you referring to? I wasn't throwing, I was just trying not to be eliminated and to get to the other side of the stalemate line with enough units not to be eliminated. I expected the southern powers to be able to hold (or at least try to hold) Tunis. Still, in Spring 1912 if you support hold Ber, then we have that part of the stalemate line covered with my move to Pru which you bounced. (You moving to Pru and Sil is a tempo too slow, because Ber had to be sup held by your Sil that turn).
30 Mar 18 UTC Nobody in the south was ever able to really assert any kind of dominance, so it was a bit of a Three Stooges scenario with the three of us banging our heads around for ten years. 1910 was turning point though when MM got those three builds - after that happened, I was so far out of position I had no chance at securing Tunis.

Austria stabbing me in 1909 was silly and poorly thought out. Granted, I never really helped him much, but waiting that long to stab for one center was extremely ill-conceived, especially in the same turn that he continued to attack Russia and Turkey was in no position to be a useful ally.
30 Mar 18 UTC Italy, you played an unusual and impressive game. You certainly kept me from growing.
30 Mar 18 UTC 2WL, I can possibly see why you may go for Mun the first time, but why again in 1906 when France had control of England and was becoming the dominant power with only me to slow him? With Russia having 3 units on Scandinavia at that time, I was not a risk to anyone, as much as a counter-balance to France's further growth.
30 Mar 18 UTC That spring, Turkey had force disbanded my fleet in the Aegean and had a 3-1 fleet advantage on the Ionian. Bad news for me. Worse was the fact that Russia was similarly getting large and had armies in Boh, Gal, and Rum. From my perspective, I was facing a very strong juggernaut that was on the precipice of breaking into both the Balkans and the Ionian. Since France had supported me to Munich once already, I knew it was a possibility, and at that point in the game I simply couldn't say no to possibly ending up with three builds. It worked (to an extent) as well - Russia never got further than Galicia and Turkey ended up being reduced to three centers.

England was well finished before that turn and France was only at 7 centers. Given the choice of the extra build for me versus the potential of a very large Russia, which would have also been problematic for you, I think taking Munich was the correct option.

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France
MadMarx (33047 D (G))
Won. Bet: 143 D, won: 1001 D
18 supply-centers, 16 units
Italy
2ndWhiteLine (2279 D (B))
Survived. Bet: 143 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Turkey
! (1259 D)
Survived. Bet: 143 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Germany
chluke (6121 D (G))
Survived. Bet: 143 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Austria
genghiz (8677 D)
Survived. Bet: 143 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Russia
Mapu (372 D)
Survived. Bet: 143 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
England
peterwiggin (14677 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 143 D
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