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Finished: 05 AM Mon 19 Feb 18 UTC
My Worlds on Fire. How 'bout yours?
1 days /phase
Pot: 340 D - Spring, 2009, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
15 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:No one can predate China.
15 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [South-Africa]:@ Ghana: I see you removed your draw vote.
15 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [USA]:So this whole draw vote thing has completely exposed the real wolves here. You got people crying wolf when it turns out they were the wolves. You've got Ghana & Libya who were crying wolf about me and interfering with my nation's politics and Europe & Russia who are just starved for SCs and are hoping Ghana & Libya can feed them a couple scraps.

Ghana, you think Europe wanted to fucking attack me? A full 1.5 years away and he still hasn't gained any SCs? Europe & Russia banded together to protect themselves from you & Libya. But they still got massacred by your alliance before they managed to become allies with you guys. I'm sure if Europe & Russia had the manpower to do so they would attack you guys in a heartbeat.

Ghana, at this point, you can claim your scared of me but if you hadn't bothered me there wouldn't be a need for attacking you. You have fucking Libya who's got your back as well. Convoying into Africa isn't a good idea unless you've got someone in Africa to support you with it.

If you hadn't bothered me by sending your bitch Europe my way and then sending several of your Fleets my way I wouldn't be bothered with you nor would I have to fight you.

Don't go crying to me that your scared of me Ghana. You've been the aggressor the whole time, sending Europe my way, interfering with the America's politics. And I recall there being 37 SCs in the African-European alliance. I only have 19.

Europe, Russia: If you want some real SCs band yourself with China and take on the African Alliance. You leave me alone I'll leave you alone. You can gain some real SCs by doing that rather than getting stalemated by China & needing some serious African support to even maintain stalemate position with me.
15 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Europe]:USA, if you weren't such a completely unpleasant, abrasive, thin-skinned, apoplectic bully-victim with a sanctimonious ego the size of the Jupiter that blows up about trifles, I could have considered working with you.

In truth, I prefer the quiet menace and aloof silence of the multi cheater!

Handed his power on a silver platter with nobody to resist him, whinges and complains about others on the board from the best position as the dynamic of the game develops (understandable behavior, part of the game to upset relationships), calls cold wars "massacres" and me a "bitch" looking for scraps, then cajoles me to flip on others. No thanks!

Ugly soul, no class. I'll expect your spittle-flecked wall of recrimination text on my desk by next turn cycle.
15 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Europe]:P.S. I do miss you, Kenya
15 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Frozen-Antarctica]:Not the best moment to bring about the idea of a UNO, it would seem ?
15 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [South-Africa]:A United Nations?
I'd be interested.
15 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [USA]:Europe, your telling me that your happy with the 0 SCs you gained from me? Your only attacking me because it's better than the -6 SCs you would gain from attacking the African Alliance. I'm sure if you & Russia had the manpower to do so you would of walked all over Ghana & Libya. But you didn't and so you allied yourself with them.

Don't bullshit me, you & Russia aren't wearing the pants of the Euro-African alliance. Ghana & Libya are. I must say that they really aren't doing much for you right now. Besides your first year gains you & Russia have made basically no progress.

Your alliance's attack on my nation was unprovoked. I didn't exactly move to NE Atlantic and take an SC from you now did I?
15 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:hahahahaha maybe even a real World Government!
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Ghana]:Europe's wish for chat flaming has been fulfilled. Let's cease this talk and see what we have in store for each other no?
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Ghana]:If anyone still needs convincing who the bad guy is, simply look at what we're all worth.

All together. Europe Russia Libya and I are worth 130pts

The u.s. alone is worth 121.
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:So you want to become a bad guy by taking more points? :-)
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:In more than 300 games that I have played so far, I have never seen a game that had this GOOD VS BAD momentum so conspicuous.
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Ghana]:China if you understood
anything about the position I'm in now. You would understand my actions. It goes to show that in 300 games you still don't know this game fully.

The USA has more fleets than I do units .. the same is true for you at the moment.

Plus you're still worth more than I am even without subtracting the starting ante
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:Dear Ghana, your position is actually pretty good.
Let anyone, including USA know, that position of China regarding Africa is that no American fleet or ground army should ever touch African soil and that China will do everything that is at her disposal to act in a way that will reflect the desired outcome on our most indigent continent!

Also, regarding my knowledge of the game, you will be fully acquainted with it during this game.
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Ghana]:I don't doubt your strategic prowess.

I simply think you're non-aggression with the US is the reason that they have become a Powerhouse. The same is true for you vice versa.

Plus even if I were to turn on my allies. The US would consume me without second thought

All of the big players in this game have their backs to a friend. And believe it or not this game is actually been played very well by all players.

Maybe I just don't want to see it end
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:Aaaaaaaaaah come on Ghana! hahahahahaha
You just want more points and that's completely OK.

Regarding China, I picked up a game from a guy that was descibed to me by other players as "not thrust worthy", "cheater" and an "asshole"...

Trust me, that is not so good position to be in. Number of centers is not the only thing that shows the power of a country. Sometimes, being such a "swell guy" as yourself can give a country a lot of soft power.

Regarding the absence of Chinese aggression on USA, you can see that China is simply blessed with its 4 neighbors and you can ask any of them (Frozen Antarctica, Libya, Russia and Pacific Russia) did I ever sold any agreement that was made.
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:*sell

Sorry, English is not my native language.

Btw, I should also say that this public chat is one of most amusing that I saw. :-)
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Ghana]:That even I can agree with ;)
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:Cool. :-)
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Russia]:At least we can all agree that USA is an asshole. A draw was on the horizon but he just had to be so arrogant about it
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [South-Africa]:US has been pretty nice to me. Like, I get their not nice to you, but that's not really a reason to not draw in a losing war.
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [South-Africa]:US has been pretty nice to me. Like, I get their not nice to you, but that's not really a reason to not draw in a losing war.
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [South-Africa]:Why did it send twice?
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Ghana]:The real question is, where did China's draw vote go?
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Ghana]::)
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Frozen-Antarctica]:(Connection troubles I would say)
It is the first time I get involved in a worldwide conflict and I must say it is absolutely thrilling. It is an honour to fight along and against such great leaders. My draw vote is simply the expression of my wish for peace rather than an ever ending hunger for more, but as long as efforts are needed to bring stability on this planet, I will continue the fight, honestly and faithfully.
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Russia]:South Africa with all due respect to your honorable nation. you aren't a threat to the USA tyrant. He treats you like an ant crawling on his hand. its not too annoying but he could easily crush it if he'd like
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Frozen-Antarctica]:Whatever the balance of strengths between nations, what really matter are mutual respect and shared interests. Lets not judge the actions of others from so far.
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Russia]:Regardless. Russia is happy to be working with other great leaders against the tyrant in the west
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [South-Africa]:My guess is China does not want to give the power to end the game to their enemies. Perhaps she knows she can take a few more SCs before this ends.
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [South-Africa]:Also, I'm more like a dog than an ant. Like a Chihuahua.
16 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:Chinese delegation wishes to reinforce its dedication to peaceful resolution of conflicts, especially now that we have reinstated democracy to both China and India, two of the worlds most populous nations.

The moment that our Eurasian partners decide that it is the time for ending of this disastrous bloodshed, China will reinstate its vote.

Also, we would like to ask our Libyan counterparts to leave Eurasia once and for good. China has a strong believe that every nation has its own right on self governance, which includes the Great Sultanate of Libya. Of course, failing to remove itself from our land might result into inquiry of possible numerous violations of human rights that have been reported from that that purple Caliphate on our south west.

17 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Frozen-Antarctica]:I wish to formerly invite you all to a peace summit. At this point I am certain that little efforts could provide each of us with what we wish for. So my friends, what do you want to draw ?
17 Feb 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:China will provide its allies with promised naval support as that is the agreement that was made. Along with Frozen Antarctica I am also putting a draw vote, but that by any means doesnt change a fact that I will fulfill my agreed obligations.
17 Feb 18 UTC [South-Africa]:The deposed government of South Africa agrees with the delegate from the Arctic. Peace is necessary. We vote Draw. Furthermore, we will respect the sovereignty of every nation and will not attack them or try to take their SCs. With the exception of Ghana, at least until we control the two African starting positions that were wrongfully taken from us.
18 Feb 18 UTC [Ghana]:The dual African Alliance. Agrees to said draw.
18 Feb 18 UTC [USA]:Now Europe & Russia on the other hand... What else do they want at this point?
18 Feb 18 UTC [Russia]:The great nation of Russia seeks international peace. We draw as well
18 Feb 18 UTC [Ghana]:GG everyone. This isn't the end that I wanted but it's the end I will accept. Regardless of what was said I believe we all played very well.
@ USA I really do wonder what our combat would have looked like

@South Africa, I admire your ability to survive. You moved around quite a lot ;)

@lybia you were my friend from the beginning. I thank you for all that you did to improve my nation.

Best of luck in the future conquests everyone
18 Feb 18 UTC [Libya]:LOL Nikola! No wonder you were able to talk Russia and Frozen out of that attack. Well done sir, you are a smooth talker. If more points were on the line I may have been able to keep them on board...
18 Feb 18 UTC [Frozen-Antarctica]:It's been a pleasure to play with you all for my first world diplomacy, thank you !
18 Feb 18 UTC [China]:LB, that is fair to say.
Also, I really hoped for that Libya - China coalition from the start, I really thought that we had a lot of free space.
Good game, all.
18 Feb 18 UTC [South-Africa]:That was a good game. I'm surprised I survive.

@USA: I have to ask, were you planning on taking me out. I figured you would have no actual reason to keep me around, and you could really easily take me out. I got to know.
@the dual African Alliance: That was interesting. I really felt like a disposed government, constantly have to ask for sanctuary and aid. You even turned one of my allies against me(Frozen). Very enjoyable.
@Frozen: Good game, too bad we couldn't work things out. I'm glad you had a good first game.
18 Feb 18 UTC [USA]:Ahaha! I eliminated CAPT Brad in WC... Everything makes sense now...

@Ghana Our war would of been an effective stalemate with Europe & you guys gaining minimum SCs from me. You were wrong when you thought I would walk all over Brazil. He had control over WAO and even without your intervention it would of been a battle.

@South Africa My alliance with you was out of necessity, due to the Euro-African alliance against me I needed someone to help me eliminate Brazil and take his units away from Brazil so I could reduce the number of units fighting me. I might of still made the alliance with you even if the Euro-African alliance didn't turn on me. But I probably would of eliminated you later.
18 Feb 18 UTC [USA]:Good game anyways!
18 Feb 18 UTC [Libya]:The only reason I didn't go for China/Libya is because you were new to the game so no trust factor was there, and I had spent so much energy building a 4 (eventually 5 with Europe) man coalition. I definitely saw the stab possibilities, and the 3 way draw, but if I was wrong and China betrayed me then I would be toast. Had you been there from the start I would have gone for it. The original China and I discussed that very possibility, it was tempting indeed.
18 Feb 18 UTC [USA]:Your confusing me... Are you saying old China was going to stab me?
18 Feb 18 UTC [Libya]:He offered me at one point a 3 way draw with you (USA). I was too deep in my alliance to try to start a new one with a new player.
12 Apr 18 UTC [India]:gg

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ChippeRock (2520 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 127 D
20 supply-centers, 20 units
Nikola Maric Eto (23619 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 63 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Lord Bolton (783 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 46 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
LePrince (231 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 39 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Mr.Sheridan (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 32 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
Locke- (1291 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 21 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
DealMerchant (911 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 12 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Tanteno (126 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 3 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Mannerbroheim (172 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 1 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
MajorMitchell (1033 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 1 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Taurus II (162 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
rdc46341 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Chance (164 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
trooper98 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Rach1100 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
Running man (100 D X)China (Spring, 2006) with 14 centres.
abernat (161 D)Oz (Spring, 2003) with 4 centres.
NeonGreen (108 D)India (Autumn, 2000) with 3 centres.
E7248405 (80 D X)China (Spring, 2001) with 6 centres.
lucbrug (0 D X)Brazil (Autumn, 2004) with 8 centres.
Mace1994 (88 D X)USA (Spring, 2001) with 6 centres.
najahfreeman (104 D)India (Autumn, 2001) with 2 centres.
DaDawgPound (60 D X)Quebec (Spring, 2001) with 5 centres.
daltond1019 (100 D)Quebec (Spring, 2004) with 1 centres.
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