Spring, 1901: Good luck, folks! Here's hoping this is a fun one. | |
Autumn, 1904: Hello hello, New Italy here | |
Autumn, 1904: Looks like Turkey will win. | |
Autumn, 1904: who knows, maybe I could send my homeless army in a crusade against him (stress on homeless) :) |
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Autumn, 1904: I might describe your homeless army as suicidal is you continue to fight me for little gain. | |
Autumn, 1904: Who's Turkey? | |
Spring, 1907: Turkey is gunning for the solo, and about to take War and Mos. I propose we pull our heads out of the sand, adopt an immediate cease-fire, and coordinate to keep the Sultan contained. | |
Spring, 1907: Italy's helping Turkey for who knows what reason. | |
Spring, 1907: War+Mos+everything Italy has would leave me at 16, so that logic crumbles on closer examination. I'm not at immediate risk of soloing, and Italy isn't foolish to work with me. | |
Spring, 1907: You are looking at the same Italy I am right? The one that let you have the Ionian and is supporting you into Bohemia. | |
Spring, 1907: I'd be happy to tell you why I think Italy's strategy right now is the correct one once the game is over. | |
Spring, 1907: I think I know why, I am just trying to let everyone else know that you are still a major threat. | |
Spring, 1907: Sure. I'm bigger than everyone else. It's worth being mindful of me. It's not "ohmygodhe'sgonnasolo" yet though, and really the only powers that mindset would benefit right now are France and Russia. | |
Spring, 1907: I would strongly encourage you all to research stalemate lines. Two of the most important centers are Tunis and Munich as they can both be held effectively from both the south and the north. Turkey is really close to getting Munch and has a fleet adjacent to Tunis. If we (meaning everyone who is not Turkey) lose control of Munich and Tunis, the Turkey goes from a major solo threat to an extreme solo threat. I am not saying "ohmygodhe'sgonnasolo" yet because we have a chance to organize a stalemate line. If Turkey can get control of Munich and Tunis, then we have a "ohmygodhe'sgonnasolo" situation. |
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Spring, 1907: And that's why Italy will be getting both of those centers in short order. | |
Autumn, 1907: Italy may be dumb enough to believe they're working together. We need to prepare to defend the draw line. | |
Autumn, 1907: I'll get a fleet into Baltic Sea. | |
Autumn, 1907: I didn't realize this had become a public press game, but OK. Hey Italy, how about a two way draw? |
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Autumn, 1907: Thanks for making it explicit. Germany, England, France -- do you want a two-way draw, or shall we work to make it six? |
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Autumn, 1907: Poor Austria :( | |
Autumn, 1908: Reiterating, Turkey and Italy have made explicit their plans for global expansion. We have an opportunity to force a draw. Let's stay coordinated and avoid getting greedy. It's a draw-size game, so we're all equal partners here. | |
Autumn, 1908: England, France, please add your draw votes, and let's keep the pressure on. | |
Autumn, 1908: To be fair, by playing the game, you are pretty much subscribing to the idea of attempting some level of world domination | |
Autumn, 1908: And to the resistance of same. This isn't a moral question, just a pragmatic one. | |
Autumn, 1908: Sure, what you're saying is reasonable, except for the bit where you don't plan to eliminate anyone once you've contained us. One doesn't have to look any further than Austria to see that's the case. I'd love to two way draw, but realistically it's extremely likely we'll be stopped short of that. Ringing alarm bells makes sense for Russia and France, as they're the direct recipients of our attacks right now (further German gains are impossible without Italian armies getting into France first). It makes significantly less sense for England and Germany, who are forced to stay small by the mega-alliance and will thus be easy to safely cut like Austria once Russia and France are safe. |
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Autumn, 1908: This is a red herring. There's no "safe” that I can get to, nor France. If at some point England or Germany stab us, we'd have to pull forces from the stalemate line to respond. Similarly, if we try to eliminate then, that will open the door for you and Italy. | |
Autumn, 1908: Obviously they shouldn't *stab* you. They should be demanding every center you can safely give them, because as things stand now, they're entirely possible to eliminate, and whatever the two of you want to say in public, you both know it. | |
Autumn, 1908: Honestly, explain the tactics by which France and I could eliminate England or Germany without opening the door for you and Italy. Because I don't see it. France needs to get fleets to MAO stat. I could potentially free up one fleet, but more than that would leave Den open. | |
Autumn, 1908: It's pretty trivial for me to back enough for you to do it, which got generally positive feedback as an idea when I proposed it in private. | |
Autumn, 1908: The problem I see is that while backing off may be a great idea in practice, it is the opposite of what you are doing right now. Besides, I am currently inviting England to help join the defense which would make them near impossible to cut out without ramifications. | |
Autumn, 1908: Yes, abandoning his home centers will make him much more difficult to eliminate. | |
Autumn, 1908: Can I just say how refreshing it is for the global page to be used to discuss the game instead of someone repeatedly posting the full script for X-men as vengeance? | |
Autumn, 1908: This isn't the X-Men fan forum? | |
Autumn, 1908: No, I'm talking about just during a game. Some guy just started posting the script over and over. Made it pretty much impossible to do anything in global chat | |
Autumn, 1908: Sounds like a party. | |
Autumn, 1908: England -- join the defense, please. Neither France nor I see a path to an endgame without you. | |
Autumn, 1908: Without your centers* | |
Autumn, 1908: Yes, you see all the units that I can currently move towards your centers. | |
Autumn, 1908: Good game, Austria. | |
Just a casual heads up. Turkey can take Tunis, Naples, Rome, Trieste, and Munich this turn if people do not work together and recognize the threat. While most of you have turned a blind eye to the problem, it will not go away. We must stand and fight. | |
Italy, turn and fight. I understand your motivation to this point. Continuing further is simply throwing. | |
It's all well and good to support an ally in this game, Italy. But also, try and see it from your citizens perspective. Rome will fall, and it's museums, and archaeological treasures will be under the control of some Turkish dignitary. Naples, Tunis... Venice, with the David, the holy relics... The Holy See will fall to Muslim hands. You are the leader of the Italian people. But you don't care. You told me in press that your loyalty to the Sultan is supreme. You're fine with being a vassal state. And your play has been true to your word. You are no Italian.Even if the Sultan lives up to his word, your nation will survive by his grace. You have yielded your country's autonomy, sir. It is despicable. |
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Join the free nations of the world to reach a stable peace, if it's not too late already. That's what the game is about. | |
Y'all are fun. | |
Good game, all. | |
Good game. | |
@Turkey, you did a great job working the global propaganda and I am glad to see you chose to end my suffering quickly. @Russia, valiant fight in the east. I am sorry that I did not get to work with you more. @Italy, I have to say that you approach, while new and interesting, was quite annoying to play against. Can't say I did not warn you. @England, sorry that I had to end our relationship so early on. It left you in an awkward position for the rest of the game. @Germany, it was a pleasure to work with you while I could, but after your perplexing stab attempt, I felt that you were strategically unsound. @Austria, sorry that your time drew to a close prematurely. |
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Honestly, I'm fine with how it worked out, and after yesterday, well let's say I've got a better lease on life in general. Sorry for the rest of y'all though, I must've been infuriating to deal with |
Turkey |
ghug
(5068
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Won. Bet: 10
![]() ![]() 18 supply-centers, 13 units | |||
France |
celaph
(1479
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Survived. Bet: 10
![]() 4 supply-centers, 4 units | |||
Russia |
JaimeR
(100
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Survived. Bet: 10
![]() 4 supply-centers, 4 units | |||
England |
aocnbpaocznbmao
(0
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Survived. Bet: 10
![]() 3 supply-centers, 3 units | |||
Italy |
Leon Slath
(398
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Survived. Bet: 0
![]() 3 supply-centers, 7 units | |||
Germany |
lucbrug
(0
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Resigned. Bet: 10
![]() 2 supply-centers, 2 units | |||
Austria |
phantomsaber
(100
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Defeated. Bet: 10
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Nathan the Wise (0 ![]() ![]() | Italy (Spring, 1904) with 4 centres. |
lucbrug (0 ![]() ![]() | Germany (Autumn, 1910) with 2 centres. |