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Finished: 02 AM Mon 25 Dec 17 UTC
Seven Wonders
1 day /phase
Pot: 490 D - Spring, 1914, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
23 Dec 17 UTC Italy, seriously, draw? You had a solo in the bag..
23 Dec 17 UTC I found the second half of this game utterly confusing.
23 Dec 17 UTC Yes, because you supported Italy into Mao, are you nuts?
23 Dec 17 UTC We are very lucky that Italy did not grab Spain Portugal and Marseilles for the solo
23 Dec 17 UTC i think i can not get solo, unless France make a serious mistake. it would take a long time to velidate that if France do mistakes.
i think that process must be boring to you.
i miss the chance to attack Spain and Portugal. it is my fault
23 Dec 17 UTC France makes plenty of mistakes, nearly every turn.
23 Dec 17 UTC Italy wasnt in a position to solo when I supported him into MAO. At that moment the game was FI vs. GR. Germany was beating me easily in the west, and Italy was taking losses in the east that year. Then Germany flipfloped between attacking Russia and me.
23 Dec 17 UTC I interpeted the Russian fleet to Sweden in 09 not as a stab but as a transfer of a center from G to R as R needed more units in the south.
23 Dec 17 UTC I was trying to defend warsaw and moscow from the Italian. He could have taken Iberia and would be at seventeen if he took sevastopol as well. The norway move was to get the french less protective of liverpool to start attacking the Italian, but obviously that wasnt working
23 Dec 17 UTC What year are you talking about?
23 Dec 17 UTC Just the end.
Early on France made a good defense and killed my chance for a solo. I was never going to get Iberia without MAO. Only hope was vie to go along with war and mos, but I had to keep the Russian alive due to the Italian doing so well.
Nice attack of the Italian on the Turk. I've found that in no press that the Italian has a preferable position on the Turk, but still italy did well there.
23 Dec 17 UTC Just the end.
Early on France made a good defense and killed my chance for a solo. I was never going to get Iberia without MAO. Only hope was vie to go along with war and mos, but I had to keep the Russian alive due to the Italian doing so well.
Nice attack of the Italian on the Turk. I've found that in no press that the Italian has a preferable position on the Turk, but still italy did well there.
23 Dec 17 UTC Germany, your end moves were worthless. Rumania and sevastopol were lost, impossible to defend, but then I had a perfect stalemate at Warsaw Ukraine Moscow. Just like you had in Munich Silesia Bohemia. None of your end moves could do anything to save Rumania nor sevastopol, and were not needed to defend anything else. The move you pulled off if France, you needed to convoy to Denmark and Berlin hold. Obvious peace to both Russia and France, and then you needed to go to the channel to help get Italian fleets pushed back.
23 Dec 17 UTC France, NEVER let anyone through Gibraltar, in either direction. Never. Doesn't matter whether or not they can solo at that moment, because, later when they can solo, it's nearly impossible to drive them back.
23 Dec 17 UTC Italy, sevastopol is 15, very easy with two fleets in the Atlantic to take Spain Portugal and Marseilles. You should have made France pay for his errors with a solo
23 Dec 17 UTC You cant defend moscow and warsaw with only three units. He can be in sev ukraine and galicia, break moscows support, and take warsaw or vice versa
23 Dec 17 UTC You needed armies in Livonia and St petersburg
23 Dec 17 UTC I do agree that I should have moved to denmark though
23 Dec 17 UTC My defense is in UKRAINE, supported by Warsaw and Moscow. Go back to basic stalemate study, get a clue. Defense power of THREE, attack ability of THREE, Rumania, gal and sev
23 Dec 17 UTC He will never take Ukraine, unless you make even worse nives than the crappy ones you've already made
23 Dec 17 UTC Moves
23 Dec 17 UTC You needed to go.to.the channel and start supporting a French counter attack until he finally figured out to start doing it.
23 Dec 17 UTC I am gonna accede that stuck between an Italy with a serious solo attempt who keeps not attacking, and a Germany without a serious solo attempt who keeps attacking, the correct choice is to turn against Italy. It just felt meeningless. My read of Germany was that he would just try to eat me from behind.
23 Dec 17 UTC it is not easy to get all Iberia and Marseilles after the army of France move into Spain.
Perhaps i should keep on for several rounds, because i had a real chance to get solo.
But it really needs a big mistake made by France, which is different from the ones before when France chose to believe me.
23 Dec 17 UTC I am gonna accede that stuck between an Italy with a serious solo attempt who keeps not attacking, and a Germany without a serious solo attempt who keeps attacking, the correct choice is to turn against Italy. It just felt meeningless. My read of Germany was that he would just try to eat me from behind.
23 Dec 17 UTC Sorry for the double post.
23 Dec 17 UTC Russia, I don't know about your complaining. If France does not let Italy into MAO, then Germany just takes you out from the top. I could not do that once he was in MAO as WAR and MOS then needed to be held to stop the Italian. In other words, his moves saved your butt.

France also defended well against Germany earlier, and he did the right thing the first time letting Italy in to MAO. The signal was stop attacking me or I'll let the Italian win. The second time was too risky though.

Germany should have stayed in STP a couple of years ago. Then you would have needed me for the line. Or better, just moved more armies over there and held.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Italy
tangzhonghe (269 D)
Drawn. Bet: 70 D, won: 123 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Germany
lint (455 D)
Drawn. Bet: 70 D, won: 123 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
France
RoganJosh (3307 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 70 D, won: 123 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Russia
Tugster (13048 D)
Drawn. Bet: 70 D, won: 123 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
England
tutto (307 D)
Defeated. Bet: 70 D
Austria
guak (3381 D)
Defeated. Bet: 70 D
Turkey
Defeated. Bet: 70 D
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