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Finished: 01 AM Wed 27 Sep 17 UTC
World gunboat-354
1 days /phase
Pot: 85 D - Spring, 2009, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
20 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2007: [South-Africa]:Fuck.
20 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2007: [Quebec]:Hey Argentina,

Not necessarily. This game will likely come down to a 4 or 5 way draw anyway. Odds are me, Ghana, PR, and you are the first four. I'd like Near East to be the fifth since he definitely deserves it.

If that sounds like too many people for the draw, then I am open to discussion.
20 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Oz]:I know you were speaking to Argentina, but to this humble nation, that actually sounds like too few.
(We'd like to be included in your glorious world peace)
20 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Quebec]:Oz nothing personal against you, but I highly doubt the rest of the board want to split the spoils six ways. Four or five is probably what they are willing to go with.
20 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Oz]:Oh, that's fair enough. We'll just destroy Ghana, no biggy.
20 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Near-East]:Sorry about that bounce in Spain, I just wanted to get my fleet out somewhere it could be more useful than stuck in the Med. My other option would've been to go through Egypt, and I didn't think you would appreciate that.
20 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Ghana]:Where would it go after that? I'm just swapping out a fleet to use in the south.
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Near-East]:I don't even know. I'm just trying to figure out what to do with it. Or maybe I should leave it in Italy and send my armies southeast?
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Quebec]:So I honestly thought we'd probably end up in a 5 way draw with me, Ghana, Near East, PR, and Argentina as the 5. Looking at the board now I think that's the easy option if we want this game to end now once Delhi, South Africa and Oz are gone.

The other option if 5 is too many and that someone else has to go. Ghana, Near East and PR seem very cramped so I'll let you guys discuss amongst yourself how you want to handle that situation.
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Pacific-Russia]:I'd like to hear Ghana's opinion on the potential 4 way draw
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Pacific-Russia]:Hey Oz my good ally, shouldn't your focus be on Africa now if anyone?
I think you should move your fleet in the pacific islands to Java sea and we'll DMZ the northeast Indian ocean. Agreed?
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Pacific-Russia]:Quebec: DMZ the Barents Sea and Baltic Sea now?
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Oz]:Honestly, i was expecting you to attack me. I'll move the fleet towards Africa now.
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Argentina]:Hey Oz, are you moving into Norwegian Dependency to support yourself into Syo or shall I?
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Ghana]:I'd be fine with a 5 way draw. 4 Would prolong the game just for the sake of a few extra points.
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Oz]:I'd prefer to keep it unoccupied and support myself in with a fleet from the Southwest Indian.
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Quebec]:Hey PR, as I promised I moved out of the Barents.
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [South-Africa]:Oz shouldn't we work together to maybe get some points from the game??
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Oz]:I feel like i've got better chances allying myself with Argentina.
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Quebec]:Hey Oz,

Since both of us are allied with Argentina, we should both probably be allied with each other as well. I never really considered it since we are on opposite ends of the world and you were very preoccupied with antartica etc. Since you're up to 8 units, we are both probably at more of a stage where we could help each other.
21 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [South-Africa]:you gonna get knocked out then mate.
22 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Quebec]:South Africa-Was that directed at me or Oz? I haven't really done anything to provoke you...
22 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Oz]:I'd be glad to have another powerful ally, Quebec.
22 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Pacific-Russia]:Quebec: How is it a 5 way draw if the Near East and Oz are both included with Argentina?
22 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Oz]:I believe the original idea was Argentina, Ghana, Near-East, Pacific-Russia and Quebec.
22 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Quebec]:Oz is right. That was what I thought it was going to look like. All I was saying is that Is Oz is playing himself into the conversation.

So now that Europe is done, what's the next means of expansion if anyone has any ideas or wants to work together.
22 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Ghana]:Well I know what Oz will suggest but the only way they'll be doing that is with substantial help from others. I'd suggest ending this game as quickly as possible and taking them out.
22 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Argentina]:Ghana, are you saying I have to battle Oz and we'll end the game?
22 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Ghana]:If everyone chips in it'll be quicker.
22 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Argentina]:Very tempting... You'll have to shuffle your fleet around though. Same situation for Quebec. Pacific Russia, what are your thoughts on this?
23 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Quebec]:Whats interesting is I thought Argentina and Oz were working together and now it looks like Argentina and Ghana are working together....


It seems like the board is divided between those who want to get rid of South Africa and Oz and then draw.

The other side it looked like was Argentina and Oz teaming up to fight Ghana...
I just want to gain clarity on what people are thinking.

Near East and Pacific Russia - What are your thoughts? I'll try and follow your lead.
23 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Pacific-Russia]:I don't want to start attacking Oz because he'll rush me with his superior amount of fleets and there's no guarantee that I'll get back up.
For now I just want an agreement that if I get attacked by the Near East I'll receive assistance from Ghana.
23 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Pacific-Russia]:I can really initiate anything that's why I haven't suggested anything
23 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Oz]:Logically, it makes much more sense to kill me rather than Ghana. I can't really argue against that.
23 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Pacific-Russia]:Well Argentina and Quebec?
23 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Near-East]:Right now I'm just trying to finish off India, and then if somebody else is getting in the way of people agreeing to a draw, assist against that player.
23 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Argentina]:I can draw with Oz and Near-East included. I was working with Oz, I haven't really attacked anyone and could assist everyone who asks right now.
23 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Argentina]:Ghana, I can support you into SouthAfrica, if Oz moves into Southwest Indian, we should be fine there, You can replace the fleet in East-Atlantic Ocean.
23 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Oz]:Yes, i will move into the Southwest Indian ocean and attack from there.
24 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Pacific-Russia]:Hey Oz, I thought I said that North East Indian was a DMZ.
24 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Pacific-Russia]:Near East: You have too many armies heading East. Move some of them back.
24 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Near-East]:Sure thing. Now that India is gone I'll pull back.
24 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Pacific-Russia]:Thanks
24 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 2008: [Oz]:Shit, sorry, i forgot about that. I'm just moving through, no agression intended.
25 Sep 17 UTC [Quebec]:We have our final 6 players. I've drawn. Who hasn't?
25 Sep 17 UTC [Quebec]:Argentina...why did you attack me?
25 Sep 17 UTC [Oz]:I've put up my draw vote.
25 Sep 17 UTC [Near-East]:I've drawn.
25 Sep 17 UTC [Argentina]:I bounced myself just to do something...
I draw
26 Sep 17 UTC [Oz]:gg

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Ghana
johnd_7 (484 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 28 D
21 supply-centers, 20 units
Quebec
zqazi2 (635 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 23 D
19 supply-centers, 19 units
Pacific-Russia
Anfron (302 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 15 D
15 supply-centers, 15 units
Argentina
Newly (544 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 8 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Near-East
Surfman (65 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 8 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Oz
DakkaDok (108 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 6 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Brazil
Dorian (239 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
China
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Europe
18dvizzi (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Frozen-Antarctica
Romans1029 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
India
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Kenya
joseph52 (77 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Libya
Not Hitler (128 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
South-Africa
moodltha00 (103 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
USA
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Western-Canada
darthholo (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
goodworm007 (100 D)Western-Canada (Spring, 2005) with 3 centres.
#lapotra (100 D)Brazil (Autumn, 2004) with 3 centres.
Chancepoleon (100 D)USA (Spring, 2003) with 3 centres.
Every1$_a_critic (112 D)Russia (Spring, 2007) with 1 centres.
7.62 (30 D X)Western-Canada (Autumn, 2005) with 3 centres.
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