Finished: 04 Nov 17 UTC
Private #fuckghugboat
2 days /phase (slow)
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1910, Finished
Public messaging only, Draw-Size Scoring
Game drawn
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: Right, but the question is more what will you do if he doesn’t?

You’ve complained that Gold doesn’t keep his word, and that you’d like to see him keep it. And now you’re asking him to break his word to me. Seems like the better long term play would be to see if he’ll keep his word.
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: Tim, I don't believe I have much of a choice here. He can tap Norway and there's nothing I can do about that
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: Totally. He can prevent you sticking to your word if he wants.
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: This is the single worst thing about diplomacy. Blatant and baldly manipulative language about "what does this say about you as a man"and "what about your integrity". We are playing a game where we try to get out best result. I promise you ATC would eliminate you in the opposite situation gold
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: And it is necessary to take it. St Petes can't be held from a hostile French unit, which means at some point ATC has to help cap'n if he wants any chance to survive. A good role of thumb is don't let potentially hostile units be a lynchpin to your safety
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: And just to make one more point, I really could have missed this turn, if work was really busy today I might have Please don't get us to an escalation situation where we are trying on me sitting orders. I don't log on to the site any more except for this game, and I've already accidentally missed the turn twice
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: *relying on me submitting orders
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: If you’re worried about missed turns, you’re welcome to draw.
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: Soon enough
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: Another solution is for you to return all my centres to me. Up to you.
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: I'll hit draw after builds. Good game all.
01 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: How was I getting Tunis again?
02 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: With better moves than those.
02 Nov 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: Thanks for the game everyone.

I’m really disappointed in this game- safe, draw ensuring play from one of the best players on the site, and bickering over who is going to throw the game. I’d like to think we’re all better players than that.

Anyway, good job to Capt and Gold for working together sensibly at the end.
02 Nov 17 UTC Sorry Tim. Had I been in more of a position of power, things would've been more interesting.
02 Nov 17 UTC I don’t think you needed to kill me. But it’s a reasonable move, as it is strictly better for your score.

I would have kept me alive-I think it’s better to stick to your word wherever you can.
02 Nov 17 UTC That's why I had to ensure you weren't in a position of power, Gold :)

I think I had a chance to solo had I entered a bolder orderset in A08, but it would more likely have resulted in a win for uc.
02 Nov 17 UTC I think it would've just delayed your death for a year, as meme would've just tapped Norway and allowed uclabb to take StP, once Tunis was locked up
02 Nov 17 UTC We’ll never know :)
02 Nov 17 UTC Yeah meme I think you had real solo chances if you pushed in 1908. I was actively trying to make that true of course

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Turkey
uclabb (589 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
France
captainmeme (849 D Mod)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
England
goldfinger0303 (1954 D Mod)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Germany
Tom Bombadil (3120 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Italy
2ndWhiteLine (2369 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Austria
A_Tin_Can (2258 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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