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Finished: 07 PM Mon 17 Jul 17 UTC
Classic Stabfest
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by whiteflagofsurrender (458 D)
07 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1908: England, please move out of Denmark. I understand the desire to have one less player for the draw but in light of your attack, I am inclined to hand Berlin to Turkey and make every effort to help Turkey before I die.
07 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1908: wow, england is pretty dumb
07 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1908: I'm not attacking you, fool
07 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1908: I'm going to move out
07 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1908: why havent you two put in draw orders?
07 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1908: i just did
07 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: I don't think you guys quite have stalemate lines in place, so I'm going to keep it going awhile longer. Note to England though, I will agree to an immediate draw if we knock out Germany.
07 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: @england, I understand, just had to guard against wierd players in an anonymous game sorry. Let's achieve the draw together.
07 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: @france, can I support Ruhr into Munich?
07 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: yes. of course that works
07 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: @france done
07 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: Ruhr is moving to Munich.
07 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: also @england, dont bite on Turkeys deal, If Germany falls Turkey will prob have enough SCs to win themselves. giving us nothing
07 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: I know
08 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: My offer still stands on ending this when Germany is out. With you three having to telegraph your moves publicly, I have an advantage in the north and am still making progress in the south. I'll even let England take Kiel/Denmark if that makes you feel any better about my offer.

I destroyed two of your guys' frontline units this turn. I can easily keep going on both fronts for the win unless we go for the three way draw.
08 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: Lol Turkey, tell me how you can get to 18 without me being backstabbed? You cant. Lets continue until you realise that.
08 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: Somebody nmrs ing
08 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: I had a chance to take advantage of France not showing up a few turns ago when Germany was in Venice and didn't. That would be an ugly way to win.

You can be suspicious all you want, but as it stands, Germany is the only one to have broken any promises in this game.
08 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: @turkey and tell me what promise I broke?
09 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1909: Support holding Livonia and Munich
10 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: I can supp you into Berlin instead?
10 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: from Kiel
10 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: Yes please France, Munich support move Kiel to Berlin, England move to Kiel, baltic support move to Berlin. Pie, tyrolia, tus and Rome attack Venice. Boh wont know which support to cut (munich or Tyrolia)
11 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: England, does your move into Denmark mean you're ready to take my deal? With Germany gone, I will draw. My winning SC's were always going to come from the south, so knocking out Germany won't be destabilizing enough to ensure my victory.
11 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: And Germany, I'll remind you of your threat to suicide in my favor against England or France if either ever turned against you. ;)
11 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: Turkey you're amazing. I love you still trying to turn us against eachother even when youre like 2 SCs from winning
11 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: @turkey, england didnt turn against me, read messages properly, i asked england to take denmark
11 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: @england and france, I am sure you guys don't trust turkey. This is a sum of squares scoring game, I am only worth 1 coin, it makes no difference to turkey whether he draws now or after I am dead. He doesn't intend to draw at all.
11 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: Germany, I'd love for you to copy/paste whatever message you posted that instructed England to take Denmark, because I only see where you told him to take Kiel. If you had instructed him to take Denmark, it was not a good idea since you're now forced to disband a critical frontline unit...

France, trying to turn you three against each other has been just as entertaining as trying to gain SC's from you, but am enjoying both challenges so far.
12 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1909: @turkey, I thought I said it but it looks like the message didn't get out. Baltic is totally unnecessary as Kiel can support Berlin. England is better off with more fleets to support the south. We work as one and I don't mind losing a unit or two. Getting 1 coin or no coin makes little difference to me, but I respect the game and want to do everything I can to do the right thing, and, to give you a proper challenge :)
12 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1910: @ England get some armies up north so we can push back against Turkey. or else they wont surrender
12 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1910: @ England get some armies up north so we can push back against Turkey. or else they wont surrender
12 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1910: France, you should consider pulling tyrolia back to
Munich (and Munich back to burgundy) if turkey gets armies in to tyrolia, Boh. And Silesia, you'll
Need 3 units to defend Munich
12 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1910: I was thinkking of continuing the press up north. Get a fleet into the Baltic so that you can start pushing there too. I am just trying to hold my ground down in the Italy area.
12 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1910: I can send a fleet down that way too if that would help. Holding the turban ram will be key
12 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1910: nah keep your stuff North, bring armies up top and fleets into the Baltic to help hold on to Berlin/ Win Prussia and Liv. then as long as I dont crumble we can start gaining ground on Turkey to force a surrender
12 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 1910: Supporting Munich move to Silesia
13 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: Supporting Baltic into Prussia
13 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: @france, I think you are new and you don't really know how to do the moves properly or how to build a proper defence line down south. It would have been better if you were willing to let England help you or at least consult us. It's fine though, Turkey can win the game and it really makes little difference to me.
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: And there's the reason why I'd be willing to draw after Germany is eliminated. That's the second instance of rude condescension towards France in this public game. Advice/recommendations would have been better than the dictates you've been passing down. Germany, France is in better shape than you, so he's been doing something right.
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: @turkey, nice try. 16 supplies and "draw after germany is eliminated".
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: it's OK, everyone started as new, i just wanted france to get something out of this game, if not coins
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: So I'm guessing then that the lesson you want France to get out of this game is: spend the game insulting your allies and you too can be reduced to 1 SC!
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: Plus, you input incorrect moves yourself last turn and had support for me into Prussia... What lesson is France supposed to get out of that?
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: Oh i am so sorry that I put in wrong moves - didnt even realise lol. The game is yours already Turkey. Well played. You can spend more time texting more to try get me eliminated, and if I were you, I would do the same.
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: don't worry germany---wouldnt have mattered anyway, turkey supported with warsaw
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: Thanks England. Sorry again.
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: It's fine! Like I said, didn't end up mattering. This game will almost certainly go to Turkey. We'll see though!!
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 1910: Yeah. I was a bit salty as France didnt take Venice when I cut Trieste supply and France NMRes for a turn. But hey, I shouldnt remain salty. Sorry France if I sounded rude, my bad.
17 Jul 17 UTC France, I respectfully suggest that supporting Tunis, you either support hold piedmont or support a move from piedmont to venice or something (basically, just make sure you fall back on Marsailles, ideally next turn but this one if necessary depending on what Turkey does). The only sc's Turkey can realistically get now are Tunis or Marsailles, to make 18.

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Turkey
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 70 D
18 supply-centers, 16 units
England
Survived. Bet: 0 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
France
Survived. Bet: 10 D
7 supply-centers, 6 units
Germany
Ding5663 (1335 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Italy
Skirmisher001 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Austria
cneazul_negru (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Russia
Hippopankake (80 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
Ripple_Echo (100 D)England (Autumn, 1906) with 7 centres.
cneazul_negru (100 D)Austria (Autumn, 1905) with 0 centres.
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