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Finished: 05 AM Sun 23 Jul 17 UTC
Empire-8
1 days /phase
Pot: 100 D - Spring, 2016, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
14 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2013: Thats how we became friends
15 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2013: HA all this time I've been fooled and kept building armies just in case something happens. We could've slowed down Cuba earlier
15 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2013: I think I love heartland more than BC now
15 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2013: Jk we're all good :)
15 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2013: Hahaha
15 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2013: Yeah. My karma for lying bit me in the ass in the end :p
17 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2014: See that convoy? :)
17 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2014: Ok. Im done. Havanna goes to Heartland and all other Cuban SCs go to Quebec . Venezuela is for quebec
17 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2014: Quebec. I want you to come ovwr to take Anchorage as I am much bigger and you are much smaller than the map i sent yall many years back
17 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2014: Or take Yucatan or Manitoba?
17 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2014: Dang! That convoy is sick!
17 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2014: I'll take Venezuela, Hol, and kings and heartland can take Nav. After cuba's 4 sc are gone, the game is done.
18 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: Finally
19 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: gameID=202503

Password: america

I know yall probs hate this map by now. But im hoping to create a game with reliable people (RR 75%) You guys were great and I hope you will join
19 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: Hope you would consider joining*
19 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: Can't joint I have 63 RR
19 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: Ugh. Ok ill make a new one with reduced rr
19 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=202506
19 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: Time for the Cuban comeback!
19 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: Hey Donuts!, take Western Ontario and Haiti in the fall so we will have domimated everywhere. This year will be the last.
19 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: And guys, how about we don't dislodge Cuban fleets so we don't have to wait another 24 hours?
19 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: Quebec, Heartland. You have been amazing allies in this game. I will never forget the usernames Donuts! and Egathetos for as long as I use this site.

Donuts, thanks for never stabbing me though the Arctic Ocean haha. I blatantly lied to you at the beginning about Heartlands requests. I told you he wanted me to take Greenland and to attack you. I told you these lies because I wanted you to prepare to attack him with me after I dealt with California. I also was afraid you might target me after dealing with New York (which took WAY longer than I expected). You trusted me when I moved a fleet through your vulnerable north an that gives me hope for the types of players that play on this website. I hope you continue to play Diplomacy on this site in the future. I also experience paranoia about stabbers but wins like this are very rewarding and worth it. Wouldn't you agree?

Egathetos, I lied about you to Quebec. I was very scared of you due to your rapid growth (before your stall), but your willingness to help was great. What officially won me over was Donuts telling me about how he really wanted you to be in our alliance. I cringe at the thought of not allying with you and having Cuban fleets surrounding the whole map in a 2 way draw with him. You never moved against me and I never moved against you. Thanks for being an amazing ally. :)

Clearwaters, I am sorry your situation has come down to this. I agree with your conclusion that you cannot fight back 3 nations of slight smaller sizes individually that refuse to stab eachother forever. You were very lucky with Peru failing but overall you chose some weak allies that are now gone. You could have won Quebec over if you didn't threaten the Atlantic. In all honesty, I actually never planned to ally with you and was racing you in the Pacific. If you move the map back to the Autumn 2002 phase, you will see the exact moment I realized that the quicker of us will take a greater share of Central America. If you had been friendlier to Quebec earlier on I might have considered a 4 way draw. I blatantly lied to you when I privately told you that we would 4 way draw after eliminating Mexico and Florida in an effort for you to stab Florida. You took the bait and Heartland was able to get more builds. You played well and your all-fleet army was annoying af.
19 Jul 17 UTC Spring, 2015: Donuts, Egathetos. You two can both vote draw now. I will vote draw once Cuba is eliminated. I think I am the one who wants a 3 way draw the most here.
21 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2015: Heartland dont CD now!
21 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2015: Somebody is about to get Free points
21 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2015: Yeah winning 50 instead of 33 if Heartland leaves sounds great, but we were in this together and feels worse hahaha.
21 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2015: LOL....See should have worked with me :)
21 Jul 17 UTC Autumn, 2015: Uh... It just means that Quebec and I will 2 way draw since Heartland will be pronounced "Resigned"
21 Jul 17 UTC Leonsloth
21 Jul 17 UTC Can we all 3 way draw. In honor of our past work with the previous Heartland for 15 in game years?
21 Jul 17 UTC Ok
21 Jul 17 UTC Lucky you getting free 33 points :/
21 Jul 17 UTC Are you related to Leon Walrus?
21 Jul 17 UTC Donuts, we're finally ready!
21 Jul 17 UTC Who's Leon Walrus?
21 Jul 17 UTC Destroy Heartland! The game that never ends!
22 Jul 17 UTC what?!
22 Jul 17 UTC ohhh ur mexico hahahaha
22 Jul 17 UTC Hey everyone, thank you for an awesome game. I have a bunch to write like BC did but I don't have time right now so will be back later in 2 days :)
22 Jul 17 UTC Awesome! gg. Shame about Egathetos
22 Jul 17 UTC OMG WAIT!!!
22 Jul 17 UTC WHERE'S EGATHETOS!!!!!
22 Jul 17 UTC WHERE'S EGATHETOS!!!!!
22 Jul 17 UTC AHHHHHHH :(
22 Jul 17 UTC He CD'd
22 Jul 17 UTC I'M HONESTLY CRYING RIGHT NOW
22 Jul 17 UTC Yeah he PMed me
22 Jul 17 UTC UGH MAN :((((
22 Jul 17 UTC I know!!!
22 Jul 17 UTC THIS ENDING IS A LIE! I SHOULD NOT HAVE VOTED DRAW AND WAIT UNTIL THIS PLAYER CD AND EGATHETOS CAN CoME BACK

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British-Columbia
michael_b (192 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 33 D
22 supply-centers, 22 units
Heartland
Leon Slath (398 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 33 D
20 supply-centers, 19 units
Quebec
Donuts! (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 33 D
16 supply-centers, 15 units
Mexico
jcproctor29 (831 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Florida
WildcatSir19 (347 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Peru
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
California
moresunward (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
New-York
philippzk (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Cuba
clearwaters (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Texas
Skirmisher001 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
mikolaj420 (516 D)Peru (Autumn, 2000) with 3 centres.
Egathetos (337 D)Heartland (Autumn, 2015) with 20 centres.
mike pence (0 D X)Mexico (Spring, 2002) with 5 centres.
SmuRumS (307 D)New-York (Autumn, 2002) with 1 centres.
Great Wolf (100 D)Peru (Spring, 2001) with 3 centres.
21SavageThatCatWiththeMAC (163 D)Peru (Spring, 2002) with 1 centres.
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