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Finished: 08 PM Sat 17 Jun 17 UTC
clash of classics
1 day /phase
Pot: 175 D - Spring, 1909, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
15 Jun 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: How can I answer something I'm too dumb to know being a noob?
15 Jun 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: Or are you too dumb to understand that means I have no idea?
15 Jun 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: The bet is refunded until you reach more than 100 points, if I'm not mistaken.
15 Jun 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: Oh, forgot about that France!
15 Jun 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: There you go then
15 Jun 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: Is there a reason y'all haven't entered draw votes yet? I thought we were drawing.
16 Jun 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: Waited until Italy was officially eliminated. Austria was too.
16 Jun 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: Yeah, that's done now :)
16 Jun 17 UTC Autumn, 1908: Where is the troll? Does he also agree that I should draw?
16 Jun 17 UTC You all can thank me. France had no intentions of drawing till I exposed another of his lies. Just like I planned it :)
16 Jun 17 UTC Happy drawsgiving everyone, now that italy ist out for good
16 Jun 17 UTC Good game, everybody!!
16 Jun 17 UTC It was great playing with all of you! Would y'all be interested in a recap of the game?
16 Jun 17 UTC I have to say, I know I lost, but I do feel a certain sense of satisfaction in teaching the troll that there's more to this game than logic. Five players, all of whom had a shot at being part of a better draw, decided to forego that particular eventuality in order to prove a point about why it pays to play nice... Thanks for playing, people! And thanks for indulging my little Operation #Trollcrush :)
16 Jun 17 UTC England. The only thing you taught me is that there are some really dumb people here.

Funniest part is that I made more points than anyone but France and Germany lol

Made more than Turkey or Austria lol

And I tricked France into offering a draw when they had the game in hand.
16 Jun 17 UTC Italy, you didn't make any points. You just happened to get to zero, meaning they were refunded. That's not the same thing...
16 Jun 17 UTC England. You are incredibly stupid and you keep proving it over and over.

You can't even do simple math.

This was a 25 point bet. I have 75 points.

So exactly how did I get to 0 points??? LOL

You are an idiot.
16 Jun 17 UTC I don't know who is dumber. England who can't do simple math, Turkey who thought I muted him when it was it who muted me or France for taking a draw in a game they should have won solo.
16 Jun 17 UTC Just so you're aware, you may want to check the FAQs regarding how the points work:

The fact is that you can't drop below 100 points. So if you lose a game and would otherwise lose points that would leave you with fewer than 100, they get refunded. It's a quirk of the game that allows people who lose to keep playing games. It is not the same thing as winning points. All I'm saying is don't fool yourself into believing that you won anything here...

And these guys drew to prove a point and because I asked them to...
16 Jun 17 UTC No shit Sherlock. France already explained that. That didn't stop you from stupidity thinking I got my points back because I went to zero though which is exactly what you said.

You had nothing to do with a draw. You are too dumb to think of that and if you did it backfired because I kept more points than Austria, Turkey or Russia. Lol

You are an idiot.
16 Jun 17 UTC So three guys walk into a bar and ask the bartender how can they outsmart England. Bartender replies, make him add 1 plus 1.
16 Jun 17 UTC I'm sorry, Austria, I keep trying to take your advice, and he keeps sucking me back in...
16 Jun 17 UTC Wrong again. You keep posting complete stupidity that I easily crush.
16 Jun 17 UTC Also funny to see the great France, who claimed to have played over 100 games on this site has really only played about 15 lol. Another lie exposed.
16 Jun 17 UTC Also funny to see the great France, who claimed to have played over 100 games on this site has really only played about 15 lol. Another lie exposed.
16 Jun 17 UTC I also notice that Germany has also played in half of Frances games that are more than two players. Further supporting my claims.
16 Jun 17 UTC I had him muted since 1904, I don't know why apparently noone else did that :D
16 Jun 17 UTC Btw for everyones amusement, Italy seems to be able to behave otherwise

"I'm not mad at you.

It's a game.

I let you get too far ahead in the alliance. Like you said it works best if the partners are equal."

A message in public from one of his other games
16 Jun 17 UTC I behave appropriate to the actions of the other players. That player was honest and cooperative the entire game until the last two turns.

That didn't happen here. You had two players who clearly know each other working together in a way not appreciated by this website.

Since everyone seems so fond of the FAQs, I'm sure there is something in there about that.
16 Jun 17 UTC Just for the record: France and I do *not* know each other. The fact that we have played in a bunch of games together (which I have not verified) might be the case, but it's purely coincidental. Besides, if I knew a player playing online I think I'd be just as likely to trust them as anyone else since it's a *game*.
16 Jun 17 UTC Hahaha.
You stabbed me twice in a game we're still playing together, Germany! Bad, bad friend :-(
16 Jun 17 UTC And it is a non-anonymous game, what makes it even more impressive.
16 Jun 17 UTC Hah! I just noticed you're in that game too lol. You must be a great player because you're a big dog in both. Now you know I'm a player who plays conservatively and doesn't stab allies too often :-p Also, I thought I only stabbed you once and then gave it all back to you to make peace so I could focus on France there?
16 Jun 17 UTC Sure you guys just noticed. You've been exposed yet again.

I have your numbers.
16 Jun 17 UTC "Gave it back" is a way to speak, since I had to use some brute force too, lol

But if knew in *this game* that you were the one in *that game*, I would probably behave differently here, hahahahaha.
16 Jun 17 UTC Interestingly enough, I see that you two in that game also managed to orchestrate a situation where you turned the rest of the game against one player.

But of course you guys don't know each other yet there seems to be a pattern and similarity to the games.

Exposed even further.
16 Jun 17 UTC In fact, in that game there is one player that orchestrated everything, hahaha.
You're so dumb that you couldn't see it.

Ironically, he's Italy in that particular game.
16 Jun 17 UTC *And he's still alive*
16 Jun 17 UTC Nah, I was giving it back to you anyway. The only thing I would've done differently if I had the choice is ask you to wait a year so I could push back France slightly faster. Italy in that game is a master diplomat and convinced me that allying with you is in all of our best interests ;) Also, while I might've had some good laughs if I realized you were in both games, I would always recommend against combining what's going on in two games. It can be a bit unfair, y'know?

Also, Italy in this game: it was actually Italy in that game that orchestrated changes of alliances. He's a master diplomat, if I may say so.
16 Jun 17 UTC You guys have been exposed.
16 Jun 17 UTC I'm pretty sure the only thing that's been exposed is that you're a dunce who likes to stir up trouble. There's nothing in that communication y'all just saw that I couldn't have sent directly to Russia in the other game (France in this game). Both games are a lot of fun and who knows what'll happen next in the other one!
16 Jun 17 UTC Both games you two orchestrated the game against one player. It is plain to see.

You guys have been exposed no matter how desperately you try and deny it.

A dunce who likes to stir up trouble? Is that what Trump said about Comey after being exposed? Yep.
16 Jun 17 UTC Heh. It's the game of Diplomacy. In general, you form alliances and alliances work on taking other players' SCs.
16 Jun 17 UTC Wait, so Italy was Germany in a game that Russia won with 24 SC and he survived with about fishy.
16 Jun 17 UTC ^^ +1
16 Jun 17 UTC Not only that: Italy was Germany and in exile all the way in Belgium.
16 Jun 17 UTC Oh wait, Italy was Germany not Italy. So confusing!
16 Jun 17 UTC Turkey if you bothered to look at the map of the game, which you clearly didn't, you would have seen that I had 8 SC prior to the last turn. Russia stabbed me and was unabated to the 18th and last SC he needed for the win. I didn't enter any orders thinking that he would take just the one. He didn't, he took as many as he could. But you were too dumb to see that I did survive with the SC but had EIGHT units.

England just being a sheeple and following along with what he is told to think.
16 Jun 17 UTC And when Italy took my quotes from that game, interesting he left out the line previously....

"Germany is a cool person and we got along well but in diplomacy if you can go for the solo you go for it."
16 Jun 17 UTC Yeah, that was a brutal stab haha

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