Finished: 11 PM Thu 27 Apr 17 UTC
Live Gunboat-564
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 140 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by svkrIs (1401 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC gg all.
27 Apr 17 UTC sorry, but germany GRAFF is an idiot. He nmr'ed and he came back just to play out of the stalemateline, and nmred again.
We could have easily held the stalemate line!
27 Apr 17 UTC there's not a line in the South, since Italy just have 2 fleets, you see?
27 Apr 17 UTC sorry, but germany GRAFF is an idiot. He nmr'ed and he came back just to play out of the stalemateline, and nmred again.
We could have easily held the stalemate line!
27 Apr 17 UTC tys and adr suport ion. you have only 3fleets, it holds. and G wuld have held kie and fought for ber.
27 Apr 17 UTC oops.
27 Apr 17 UTC it doesn't matter, who NMR this way is an idiot. He NMR because he wanted to nmr. and came back just to nmr again.
27 Apr 17 UTC it doesn't matter, who NMR this way is an idiot. He NMR because he wanted to nmr. and came back just to nmr again.
27 Apr 17 UTC Without a more competent Germany we were doomed to the solo from the time Russia had 10 units. Good game svkrls
27 Apr 17 UTC it doesn't matter, who NMR this way is an idiot. He NMR because he wanted to nmr. and came back just to nmr again.
27 Apr 17 UTC do you see double and triple posts from me? what the hell...
27 Apr 17 UTC someone set up a 2 player game before go to sleep?
27 Apr 17 UTC Then I guess it would be a long one.. since Russian can build navy in double sides, I would not easily admit a draw :)
27 Apr 17 UTC someone set up a 2 player game before go to sleep?
27 Apr 17 UTC someone set up a 2 player game before go to sleep?
27 Apr 17 UTC Once Russia gets past about 10 to 12 centers it takes a concerted effort to stop them. It is usually more effective to simply fight than try to find a stalemate line because of the unusual nature of Russia's home centers. This game was decided several years ago
27 Apr 17 UTC Really, when Turkey's out, Italy did not have enough source to maintain a line by himself.
27 Apr 17 UTC Italian, the german had a bad timing to stab france. and after that, he culd not manage to go other way. G was a novice play. you were in marseile and it was ok. i was a piss in english ass, but when it was time, we settled it and made himinto den (it posponed the end of the game for another year...) G was a crying baby, scared...
27 Apr 17 UTC I didn't see anyone doing anything to stop Russia. Italy made no progress, and I couldn't move toward the eastern front or else France would have steamrolled me and tried to take Russia on without me! You don't get to avoid the boogie man the entire game then call other players scared.
27 Apr 17 UTC What? France bnever made agresive move to G, except only to recover bel in the season after it was taken. That was a bad time for stab, you have to learn a lot. I play rthins game for more than 20 years and please take this as a learning. There is no such thing, as oyu see, england was far behind you to sto R and we me we cold take Den from him, even with the few room left by your nmr'ed forces.
Platy it to the end,, fdo NOT NMR, ok to chose your moves whatever they be, but don't make 5 people wait a doxzes 5 minute turnsjust because you feel like crying baby. Better don't play this game. You have to be strong nerves to play this game.
27 Apr 17 UTC It seems that the both of you are at fault. France, you should have known that I was competent enough to hold my own against you until Russia became too big of a threat to stop. You stopped attacking me a year too late.

You also attempted to completely envelope me as Russia attacked Germany, instead of either siting still as the only power that's not in direct contact of the power that's about to solo, or attacking the country that gives you direct access to the stalemate line. You say you've played this game for 20 years, but a first year rookie could tell you that a country far behind the stalemate line meddling with the countries that control it is just asking for a solo.

You actually could have gotten away with attacking Germany outright because it would have put me in a position to take Scandinavia as Russia took the rest of turkey
27 Apr 17 UTC It is a game of gambles. My complaint is NOT about choices, but about NMR'ing for moves and retreats (first i thougt he was in technical problems, and signed for draw and pause), then returning just to move out of the stalemate line (against F who never attacked him) and then turn to NMR again and again and again.
I can understand England not like F game (well, this is a 5 minute gunboat,very specific variant, far from standard Dip), but cannot understand G not like anythink and abandon, and even decide a path that had noting to do with the game. I could understand England throwing the solo to R, but G, i can't (plus the NMR, returning, and NMR'ing again point).

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Russia
svkrIs (1401 D)
Won. Bet: 20 D, won: 140 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
France
CCR (526 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
6 supply-centers, 5 units
England
Yoyoyozo (177 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Italy
seth24c (5859 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
4 supply-centers, 5 units
Germany
Graff (100 D)
Resigned. Bet: 20 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
Austria
Devaney (429 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Turkey
MoscowFleet (129 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Civil Disorders
MoscowFleet (129 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1907) with 0 centres.
Graff (100 D)Germany (Spring, 1909) with 3 centres.
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