Finished: Thu 23 Mar UTC
Reliable Classic
2 days, 2 hours /phase (slow)
Pot: 707 D - Autumn, 1906, Finished
Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
Game drawn
Tue 21 Mar UTC If you really wanted a draw you would assist the end of both Russia and England and get a draw the very next phase.

You lie and you are exposed. DEATH TO THE HUN!
Tue 21 Mar UTC Holding Edinburgh keeps France from having access to the North Sea. That is important.

One of us has a draw vote up. It's not you. As soon as France pulls back from Edinburgh, so that I can take it, I will gladly do so. But I'm not going to allow France to take the North Sea, particularly after he has completely ignored all of my press since SPring 1902.

I want to draw. That doesn't mean I am going to do anything to help France
Tue 21 Mar UTC well with everyone talking about how much they wanted to draw, I'm glad it happened. Looks like we all got what we wanted ;)
Tue 21 Mar UTC oh wow I did not expect the draw to happen :)
Tue 21 Mar UTC France and myself coordinated a surprise and tightly sequenced button press on the DRAW.

Mate what a bunch of lightweights all you Major Powers were in the end. All preening on the global about how.you couldn't win and ostentatiously setting to DRAW, whilst you never thought there would be a Seven Button push. You never imagined the DRAW would actually occur it was just positioning and faking. And then France and England and me the minnows, get away with a DRAW, get just as many points as you flowers. Hah, sucked in. So much more Diplomacy to go in this Game but with you heavyweight pansies unwilling to do the hard work.
Tue 21 Mar UTC Actually I pressed the draw button because I knew you would throw to Germany, so I took the draw instead of letting him solo as he surely would've done. Neither you nor Austria had the strength to prevent it even if you were so inclined.
So yes I pressed the draw button hoping you two would do exactly what you did.
You wrecked the game from the beginning you fucking turd.
Tue 21 Mar UTC Hah - I laugh at your immaturity.
How naive to believe that one Power could "wreck the game", whatever that means.
Tue 21 Mar UTC I mean, you were the only reason Germany was in such good shape, Italy. If you hadn't continued attacking me we could have stopped Germany from being in such a powerful position. We could have continued working together until you were in a far more powerful position.
You can't blame Russia for this, Italy.
Tue 21 Mar UTC Ah crap. I was just about to take my draw vote down today, but I had a ton of classes today. Oops.

Russia, I have absolutely no idea what you are praising yourself for and criticizing the rest of us for. You engaged in the tactical brilliance of pressing the draw button when you had two centers. As soon as Italy put his draw vote up, I knew I had to take mine down. I just didn't have the time to open Webdip until now.

England was completely correct about my intentions, though. I knew I completely had a shot to solo, and was just trying to create an environment in which it would be a bit easier. Kind of figured Italy wouldn't want to draw with seven up, and I could position myself as the good guy. Looking back, I could have done it better, but it was a fun tactic to try out.

France, I have to ask, why did you ignore all of my press after Spring 1902? I am legitimately confused as to what prompted you do that, and it was quite frustrating.
Tue 21 Mar UTC I became quite busy with other things, and I didn't believe for a second you weren't in league with Italy, so I didn't bother trying to convince you to stab.
Tue 21 Mar UTC It was a good game all. I enjoyed playing with you all quite a bit. I'm not sure I had the tactical skills needed to actually get the solo, if I had taken down my draw, but it definitely would have been interesting.
Tue 21 Mar UTC Actually, I really disliked Italy's press all game. I would have much preferred to talk with you then with Italy. Did I give off some vibes that I was pro-Italy?
Tue 21 Mar UTC Looking back at my press with the Italy, the only time we talked a lot was when he accused me of cheating. So I was really annoyed when Italy was the one of the only other powers willing to talk to me come 1903, that I wasn't already hostile with.
Tue 21 Mar UTC Obviously Germany had a VERY good solo shot, and much of that was because Russia played poorly. Instead of taking my offer of taking out Turkey and building he made the emotional decision to be angry with me and throw his centers to Germany. I never understood why and I repeatedly offered peace in exchange for stopping Germany. But no, you were dead set on giving Germany centers. And I didnt even lie to you until one turn where you again said I had to stab Italy for us to work together.
Tue 21 Mar UTC And I didnt press draw "not realizing" all 7 could set draw. All 7 draw is much better than the other outcome: German solo.
Tue 21 Mar UTC I'm mostly just miffed that France attacked me so stupidly. Neither of us profited from that, and I told him as much the very moment he turned on me. France, why wouldn't you listen? ;_;
Wed 22 Mar UTC I reject your characterisation that I played poorly. Firstly, England attacked me from the get go - right. Problems in the north compounded with Germany blocking me in SWE.

So I had to make a difficult tradeoff to forfeit the north to survive in the South, which I pulled off - admirably some would say.
I didn't throw any SCs to Germany. He rode in as a white knight rescuer to help me against ENG, but then he turned occupier. Of course I was silly to ever trust him.
In the final reckoning, I pulled off an amazing escape from jail to coordinate a DRAW sequence with France. Ive thus acquitted myself well in this Game and noting that my points level are way below that of my fellow Players.
Wed 22 Mar UTC Haha well played Germany - I knew what you were up to and knew Russia would throw to you again so that backed me into a corner on the draw.
My press was hostile originally because i thought this game was a set up when Russia threw the first times - but that changed once I realise he was
Just a plain dickhead instead of a cheating One.
my only regret was stabbing Austria through paranoia - was always tough coming back from that.

To France I kept going because I had no choice - I saw Germanys movecoming and believed you didn't so I acted. Just part of the calls you make
Wed 22 Mar UTC Italy, of course you'd be frustrated. You spent five fruitless years trying to get into SMY or SYR, or whatever it was that you call what you were doing down in that corner (attacking ? It seems not. Feinting ? Fainting?)
Wed 22 Mar UTC The smart thing for you Russia would have been to accept our offer to take one turkish center, get Gal disbanded as retreat and build at home. Turkey had been eliminated and you had stopped Germany from taking all three norhern centers. Instead you had your mind set that I was someone you had to work against, although at that point I had not once told you anything but the truth about my moves and thoughts. It really wasnt a very creative adaptive playing style, you had your mind set and you didnt change.

As an example of the opposite you can see that the last year me and Italy abandoned the plan to attack Turkey and I again wrote you with offers of peace. That is how you change when the circumstances change.

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Germany
Fortress Door (1301 D)
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 101 D
14 supply-centers, 11 units
Italy
Wusti (868 D)
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 101 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Austria
vixol (1124 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 101 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Turkey
michaelf77 (496 D)
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 101 D
3 supply-centers, 2 units
Russia
damo72 (210 D)
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 101 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
England
Clownie (414 D)
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 101 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
France
Ezio (1361 D)
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 101 D
1 supply-centers, 3 units
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