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Finished: 06 PM Wed 23 Nov 16 UTC
Wiggle~Room~3
1 days /phase
Pot: 210 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
12 Nov 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: Gloating when someone is stabbed is bad form.
That's all I have to say about that.
18 Nov 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: When has anyone seen or allowed another power to pass through theor home SC's like France and Germany did ? I've never done that with my home SC's and can't recal seeing that in 30 years playing !
18 Nov 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: I'll make this crystal clear: I stabbed Germany "accidentally". I was scenarioing orders and what the map would look like when I was distracted and saved my orders, fully intending to return and change them.
Once I had carried out those orders, I looked at the board and had to make a decision on 2 fronts: 1st - will Germany go mental and suicide into me now? and 2nd - if I carry on and squish him, what are my realistic chances of a solo?

I made the determination that my solo chances were unlikely with a certain alliance between Austria and Turkey against me, and what was left of Germany seeing me out.

On that basis I offered the olive branch to Germany and moved on out, whilst maintaining some safeguards.

I then offered both Austria and Turkey a place in a 3 way draw - Turkey first for obvious reasons - Austria accepted then went for me and Turkey stabbed Austria.

This is how it unfolded. Darwin's Theory is not Survival of the fittest - its Survival of the most ADAPTABLE
18 Nov 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: This is not true, "i stabbed germany accidentally" ahahahah, worst play ever..i hope you take 18 centers at least, only a stupid would draw
18 Nov 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: And however i agree with england, never seen something like this before!
18 Nov 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Heh - I gave you the explanation it is for you to decide whether I am lying or not - but the evidence supports my story does it not? Or are you instead claiming that Germany and I are innovators of the highest order?
18 Nov 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Not sure why you're being so defensive ? I merely remarked that in 30 years of playing this game I've never seen such a move . Clearly the "invaded" power must have supreme trust in his invader ... Hense my genuine amazement .
19 Nov 16 UTC Spring, 1907: In all honesty, Germany probably felt the weight of my foot on his throat, but then was relieved when my press proved true, and just went with it.
19 Nov 16 UTC Spring, 1907: I was extremely disappointed when I saw the "stab", but thought the explanation offered was plausible. There was no way I could defend Germany's core sc's. The suicide fight against France had no appeal, nor did " giving" my sc's to Austria by vacating St Petersburg etc. So I decided that if France kept up the attack on Germany I would put Germany into Civil Disorder. Prompt holds and disbands not Retreats with dislodged units.
And save all criticism until the end of the game.
Would the player with France keep attacking Germany ? I gave him the opportunity to continue in alliance with me, and he did.
Munich. It's an interesting sc. If I was offered the choice with Germany at Autumn 02 of having Belgium, Holland Denmark and Sweden plus Kiel and Berlin but lose Munich to Italy, France or Russia to a solo army I'd take it.
I'll do my orders then continue
19 Nov 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: The france's stab has not been an error, we had a deal, but then he changed his mind afraid of me and turkey..and look now!i think in this game we had a really bad player (france) a really lucky one (germany) and a good (turkey)
20 Nov 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: Sore loser spotted
20 Nov 16 UTC Spring, 1908: Well it was lucky the way I captured Vienna with an unsupported move.
22 Nov 16 UTC You can have the draw Turkey, but only after Venice is returned to me, and you are fined Naples for being silly. If you accept this terms and to not fight or attack any other German or French SCs I will put up my draw vote - Germany may have its own terms.
22 Nov 16 UTC Outstanding! But surely Munich must be returned to Germany or you are simply sowing the seeds of WWII ?
22 Nov 16 UTC Not really - I offered Turkey a 3-way participation and he instead decided to get greedy and took Venice as well. So he can still have the draw, but on revised terms since he broke the spirit of the agreement.
22 Nov 16 UTC Err I was thinking of German rights not Turkish !
22 Nov 16 UTC That, my extinct friend, is between Germany and I, however, should he ask, I would most certainly cede it back to him.
22 Nov 16 UTC Go now ask him Germany ...
22 Nov 16 UTC Same with Warsaw if he wants it :D
22 Nov 16 UTC Turkey has given France what France requested, so I think a draw now is the thing to do. As the player with France says, the status of Munich is a matter for us to manage, and we have to our mutual satisfaction.
22 Nov 16 UTC Hahah MajorMitchell? Aussie Aussie Aussie!
22 Nov 16 UTC Congratulations to q23 well done with Turkey, you certainly played with ambition and talent, thanks to all players including mikiele8
22 Nov 16 UTC That was fun to watch. Good job all.

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France
Wusti (1450 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 104 D
14 supply-centers, 12 units
Germany
MajorMitchell (1033 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 64 D
11 supply-centers, 10 units
Turkey
q23 (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 43 D
9 supply-centers, 11 units
England
HangMan (1438 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Italy
martha (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Austria
mikiele8 (189 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Russia
The Situation (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Civil Disorders
martha (100 D)Italy (Spring, 1904) with 4 centres.
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