Paused (1 days, 18 hours left on unpause)
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Pot: 1414 D - Autumn, 1914, Diplomacy
Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
England, France, Italy, Germany, Austria, Turkey, Russia
~04 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: Did we lose Turkey and England???
~04 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: Naw fam, I'm here. Just placing in a bit more thought.
~04 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: Still here. I had planned on having good press today, but then my job decided that today was the day that all the things went wrong.
~04 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: God. Looking back it looks like I'm full of excuses. I'm disappointed in myself, and I apologize to everyone.
~04 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 1913: No need man, it's not a problem. Life comes first :)
~Fri 10 Feb UTC Spring, 1914: Alright, so I need to have an honest conversation with the rest of you. Real life has started to affect my ability to be online and engaged of late. My job has ramped up its intensity while my girlfriend has been in and out of the hospital this past week. Straight up, I'm not saying this to garner sympathy or for any meta reason other than to explain why I'm inattentive to press. And the game is suffering for it. My press has been largely absent, and I know I'm better than this. I seriously apologize to everyone for this. The game was an invitational to get players whose press is quality, and while I was certainly in the game for most of it, recent events are curtailing that ability. I feel like I'm letting you guys down.

So in a circumstance like this, I suppose I have a few options. One, I could ask for a pause. But with the uncertainty of the medical issues that are going on, I wouldn't know how long a pause I should ask for. And an indeterminate pause isn't fair. Two, I could ask that a substitute player be found. This seems like a fairer approach, as that gets the game back on track with as little interruption as possible. It's of course not ideal, as a new player brings in a whole new dynamic and diplomatic style. That and I would be extremely disappointed to have to leave what has been one of the very best games of Diplomacy I've ever played, thanks to an amazing group of players I've been fortunate enough to cross sabers with. The third option available to me is to agree to a draw. Already 4 of the 5 remaining players (excluding myself) have voted for a draw on their own accord. Under any other circumstance, I would find a 6 WD completely unpalatable. Now I understand that puts Russia in a predicament, as he has not voted for a Draw. To ask him to enter a Draw vote based on my own instability isn't quite fair either.

So I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to proceed in the best interests of everyone here. I want to do right by you all, so any thoughts or suggestions would be highly appreciated.

Again, I'm very sorry that I'm disrupting this quality game.
~Fri 10 Feb UTC Spring, 1914: I'll address the situation later, as I have been far busier than expected as well. However, I can safely state now you're definitely not to blame. These are serious situations which no one could possibly have predicted, especially as this game started in August. Also, in spite of these circumstances and of the impact they've had on your playing lately, you've certainly honoured the invitation and played very well thoroughly!
~Fri 10 Feb UTC Spring, 1914: Nothing against Italy, but this game could easily become a 5-player draw by the end of the year, which might be more palatable and would be at least one somewhat reasonable end to the game.
~Fri 10 Feb UTC Spring, 1914: On the other hand, I don't personally feel the game has suffered any from your slight inconsistency - if you're willing to continue playing for the next several years, I certainly am willing to as well.
~Sat 11 Feb UTC Spring, 1914: I would prefer a draw, with or without Italy. I am not excited about getting to know a new Turkey.
~Sat 11 Feb UTC Spring, 1914: So, this has been, by far, one of the most challenging games I've played in a long time, in spite of the three NMRs which, understandably, bothered Germany particularly. Though some might have been frustrated by the unusual dynamics we're having, I pretty much believe this has been kind of an unique experience to everyone.

For comparison, this is, in terms of pot size, the closest to ours ongoing game: . Equally featured and recently finished, there are this one: and this high-profile one, with two players also being here:

In my humble opinion, ours has been remarkably more balanced than anything else I've ever seen.

Now, though it wouldn't be hard to find an equally skilled replacement for Turkey, that would severely impact the game. I mean, we've been dealing with each other since August. It would have an impact if we were in 1904, but now the impact is much greater.

Considering there is nothing vaguely resembling a stalemate line, with six players alive and five in very solid positions, I think it would be shameful to draw such an open and unique game.

While it would have an impact as well, and we don't know how long it could possibly take, if Turkey thinks it will be able to resume playing at some point, I'm strongly in favour of pausing. If it happens to take months of pausing, then we draw (which will have literally the same outcome of drawing now) or consider replacing Turkey (which, it seems, has less of an impact if done after a long pause than if done now. Still, would be my last option).
~Sun 12 Feb UTC Spring, 1914: I am largely indifferent to the route we take to handle Turkey's issues. Though I do want to say that I have basically been doing Turkey's thing all game (most of my messages have consisted of "I know this is kind of late, but..").

I would also like to repeat that this game has been incredibly fun and exciting. My own preference is to pause for a bit, to figure out what happens, but again, I am fine with anything. I definitely would not replace Turkey expect as a last resort. To that goal, I am putting a pause vote up, but I leave the ultimate decision to the rest of you.
~Sun 12 Feb UTC Spring, 1914: I'm also OK with a pause, though a very long pause is almost as bad as replacing Turkey.
~Mon 13 Feb UTC So what are we doing?
~Mon 13 Feb UTC I am going to act as if we are continuing until a consensus is reached.
~Wed 15 Feb UTC Okay. If you guys are willing to take a pause for a week or so, I'd really like that. I love playing with everyone, and would hate to get a replacement. Thank you very much, and I hope to have better news soon.
~Wed 15 Feb UTC Done. Good luck out there Turkey.
~Wed 15 Feb UTC I wish you the best Turkey. Hope to see you back soon.
~Tue 04 PM UTC That's one week paused - how's everyone feeling?
~10:13 PM UTC So are we continuing? Can we just end this?

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Not received Russia
Bet: 202 D, worth: 236 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Completed France
Votes: Unpause
Bet: 202 D, worth: 236 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Not received Turkey
Votes: Draw
Bet: 202 D, worth: 236 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Not received England
Votes: Draw, Unpause
Bet: 202 D, worth: 236 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Not received Austria
Votes: Draw
Bet: 202 D, worth: 236 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Not received Italy
Votes: Draw, Unpause
Bet: 202 D, worth: 236 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Defeated. Bet: 202 D
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