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Finished: 01 PM Wed 27 Jul 16 UTC
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Pot: 340 D - Autumn, 2021, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by CptMike (4389 D)
17 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2016: [Kenya]:I conclude a majority is for the survival of Europe...
18 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2017: [Quebec]:xD. Too bad India wants more coins so Europe will be finished. Europe should be finished off anyways...
18 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2017: [Europe]:I don't think it has anything to do with coins. But I will fight on.
18 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2017: [Europe]:I have given India every reason to want me dead. I don't blame him.
18 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2017: [Kenya]:The game becomes funny. On my side I have already been blamed to keep Europe in the game. With 57 votes for and 26 again and 3 abstention, that's not fair...
18 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2017: [Europe]:Did you count my 83 votes. ;)
18 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2017: [Quebec]:LOL!
21 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2017: [Kenya]:FYI: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=181257
22 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2018: [India]:WC. Please Support me into Italy next turn. Then we can draw.
22 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2018: [Kenya]:I can take care of this as well.
22 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2018: [India]:I thought you don't want to attack Europe. ;)
22 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Kenya]:You know why ;-) I doubt WC agrees. Let's see.
22 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2018: [India]:I think WC would never not help me. :o
22 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2018: [India]:Sorry guys. I guess we lost. :P
23 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2019: [Europe]:Now that is funny.
23 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2019: [Quebec]:Anyways, what were you saying about were not WC and we don't attack our allies without good reason India? What did I tell you India of course he would go for the solo... Besides I'm not sure why you didn't at least feel threatened when he was moving into NW Indian, NE Indian, Red Sea. There was absolutely no need for him to take those positions unless he was about to attack you...
24 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2019: [India]:Ok.
24 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2019: [Quebec]:Holy shit that is the most convoys I have ever seen... I can't believe WC actually has more SCs then India now...
24 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2019: [Quebec]:Oh wait, that's 2 separate convoys... Still impressive but that map is totally fucked up I can't even see where the hell the blue lines go and where the army is being convoyed too...
25 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2020: [Kenya]:Guys... I expected everything to be done for the WE ;-)
25 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2020: [Kenya]:Guys... I expected everything to be done for the WE ;-)
25 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2020: [Kenya]:Another point: If India achieves the draw-4 I expect all of us will recognize he is the morale winner of this game... I had planned 45 centers this turn and got 43... Perfect timing. And WC *must* support thim. At least the end is exiting. :D
25 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2021: [Western-Canada]:This is the most pathetic end to a World game I've ever played. Kenya gets a Pyrrhic victory due to India's gross incompetence and everyone else just had their time wasted.
India had many chances to draw and never took any of them. He left his homeland open to Kenya's invasion and then didn't bother to put in orders once the invasion started. We could have finished this in about 2015. Why would anyone want to play a game only to have randy mietziii prolong it by a dozen turns and then throw the game to another player?
25 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2021: [Quebec]:Hey if you hadn't attacked me we might of prevented this from happening...
25 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2021: [Kenya]:I disagree with WC. The game went on because there was a real opportunity to break through the stalemate of the America's. Argentina made a mistake in the way moving South during the collapse of Oz and lost one fleet. The turn when WC bounced in Cen, we could have take Peru with an army from Qsl. That was one of the plans. We chose another option.

But in parallel to this India was protecting himself from WC's pressure and tried to take Europe as well. But he could not be everywhere. Step by step I was arming my stalemate and the borders with him exactly as WC did with Argentina ( but the opportunity has just never occured for him. The army in Bol was absolutely useless. )
26 Jul 16 UTC [Western-Canada]:The time you are talking about was after everyone (except India) had draw votes up. The only reason the game went on was India not clicking draw. The only reason Kenya got a solo was that India then didn't bother to stop it. India screwed up twice and Kenya (unsurprisingly -- who wouldn't?) took advantage of such massive stupidity.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Kenya]:The first time that I clicked 'draw' it was sincere. And indeed India didn't want at that time because he wanted Europe. It lasted until we realize there was a hole in the stalemate. And India and I went on with that 'discourse'.

But as we discussed together it is as much his will to take Europe as you will to attack him that made the game go on. You would have stopped this and the game would have stopped. And I didn't argue with you when you told me you was not sure if there was a stalemate in North. You was controling the stalemate around the America's and I would even say that it is the pressure you put on Europe that forced India to move all his forces North and unarm the borders with his ally...
26 Jul 16 UTC [Kenya]:Good continuation to everyone.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Russia]:Congrats Kenya, well done.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Libya]:I was allied with Kenya early on does that mean I get a share of the points ;-(
26 Jul 16 UTC [Europe]:The problem with India not drawing to take Europe is, India was never in a position to take Europe and was never ever going to be in a position to do it. Not unless Kenya helped him and Kenya wanted Europe to last long on enough for India to go brain dead. Again India had no chance to get Europe, India just couldn't get over getting stabbed and did not want to have Europe share in the draw. Very nicely done Kenya.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Quebec]:I think I have been telling everyone that Italy is stupid but everyone kept saying 'Shut up!'. -.-
26 Jul 16 UTC [India]:Why stupid? I have the result that I wanted. That's way better than a 5-way draw with Europe included.
26 Jul 16 UTC [India]:Europe got no points and WC got no points. That's a very good result.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Quebec]:What about India? I think that is also a good result?
26 Jul 16 UTC [India]:For you maybe. Not for me.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Europe]:He is right, Europe got no points.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Europe]:That was his objective. :(
26 Jul 16 UTC [Kenya]:India's objective was the draw-3 with Europe and Kenya. I can tell you he really insisted a lot on that !

I argued that we would earn time in making Oz joins us and we was in a hurry against the American alliance. Oz proves to be very lazy ( orders missed 3 times ; not complying with information given ; ... ) and Europe stabbed India, which upset him ( And I can understand why -> there was no reason and in the alliance India was really playing the Europe's card for a draw-3 ).

That stab generated the next stab of WC vs Quebec. Without Europe would have quietly conquered the America's by the East and India by the West... And I would have waited the Argentina stronghold to collapse.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Kenya]:India even asked me to give some of my centers to Europe in order to help him in the war against Russia and WC... Europe was his "best ally" at that time I think.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Kenya]:[ I refused :D ]
26 Jul 16 UTC [Quebec]:So Europe & WC getting no points is a good thing but because their getting no points you got no points either... I don't that that's a good thing...
26 Jul 16 UTC [Western-Canada]:India, ending on 1 SC, says "I have the result that I wanted."
That says it all. Instead of an intention to win or draw, like everyone else, he simply had the intention to punish others. Childish and a waste of everyone else's time.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Western-Canada]:If everyone else's primary objective is to maximise their own result, but one other player's primary objective is to ruin the game for others, it's almost impossible to deal with. It's like the guy who just flips the board over when he's not getting his own way.
26 Jul 16 UTC [India]:That's the game. And since my objective was to punish others I guess I Played very well.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Quebec]:*cough* *cough* in the Idiot's opinion...
26 Jul 16 UTC [Europe]:This is entertaining. Why don't we all just start another game and have fun.
26 Jul 16 UTC [Europe]:Let's get going 2
27 Jul 16 UTC [Russia]:Sure.
27 Jul 16 UTC [India]:If you Create it, please male it sum of squares scoring.

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Kenya
CptMike (4389 D)
Won. Bet: 0 D, won: 340 D
46 supply-centers, 38 units
Western-Canada
Kremmen (3817 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
31 supply-centers, 27 units
Argentina
jpuhrer (374 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
India
Survived. Bet: 20 D
1 supply-centers, 6 units
Quebec
ChippeRock (2564 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Europe
Sgt242 (1143 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Brazil
Zelgius23 (324 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Ghana
Doshy II (260 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Libya
Smokey Gem (184 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
South-Africa
Irun4fun (145 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Oz
Bertson95 (119 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Near-East
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Frozen-Antarctica
Driestruction (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
USA
bobbocow (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
China
edengizmen (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Pacific-Russia
pvxl2001 (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
DuncanFRLG (100 D)Quebec (Autumn, 2001) with 5 centres.
ababyduck (100 D)Kenya (Autumn, 2002) with 11 centres.
KingJulien (100 D)Pacific-Russia (Spring, 2005) with 1 centres.
LordBirds (100 D)Libya (Spring, 2001) with 4 centres.
NorseGod (0 D X)China (Autumn, 2003) with 0 centres.
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