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Finished: 07 PM Thu 18 Feb 16 UTC
Private The 2016 Local - R1B3
1 days /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1912, Finished
Classic, Unranked, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by wpfieps (440 D)
12 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1901: GL all. My first tourney, looking forward to it.
12 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck!
13 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1901: I wasn't able to access the rules doc. can someone tell me how this works? is there a series of games, or something?
13 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1901: Heh that's kinda funny with all the reminders from Valis :-)

I read it quite a while ago but there are 3 games and it's Carnage scoring. Set starting dates, don't NMR.
13 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1901: strange that germany didn't show up, even after sending GL messages.
13 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1901: Indeed.

We could discuss and perhaps cancel the game after discussion with the TD, but I'm not sure whether we want that? It could still be an interesting game.
13 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1901: Damn...I'm so sorry...thought I'd saved!! I'd be all in for a restart!!
13 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1901: I've just been informed that a restart is not an option.

Sorry!
14 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1901: Please save your orders when you first log on. They can always be changed after press and at least you don't NMR.
16 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1902: New Kaiser here
17 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1902: You are welcome for providing a diversion so you could overthrow the old kaiser, sir!
17 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1902: I can assure you that my coup was nonviolent.

I do love the thought of the system message saying

GOD has been replaced by brainbomb...
17 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1902: Right :-)
29 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: The Austrian Empire (belatedly) declares war on the Ottoman Empire.

Recognizing this as a suicide mission, it asks only that France and England hold off on complete destruction of western austrian lands long enough to allow austrian armies to MESS UP TURKEY'S WORLD WOOO!

Then I'll be free to kill. That is all.
31 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1907: If the pen is indeed mightier than the sword, my war of words will soon turn the tide red!
31 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Turkish air defences just reported that those dang Russkies just invaded our air space once again...
01 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: Damn, France got a build.
01 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: Yes and the target of the new build is LONDON
04 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: jesus I can't believe this game is still going. i've been looking at these same dumbass armies in trieste and budabest for like 8 years now. where's the forfeit button!
07 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1909: Sometimes it's harder to kill someone than you think.
09 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: Not all that hard when the fix is in.
09 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: ^^^
09 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: What I'm curious about is how this one will end....3-ways are stable....but France is so stretched out.
09 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: Thanks for the pep talk, but I hope I am ok
14 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1911: Congratulations to Turkey for securing the win.
14 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1911: Nonsense. If France and England stop fighting this turn, Turkey can only take all of Italy and nothing more. He'll be stuck at 17 and we all get some points! :-)
17 Feb 16 UTC France is the biggest idiot of this game and he deserves every ounce of this loss.
17 Feb 16 UTC Well played Turkey, and remind me that captmiki is an awful player. I stabbed when I had a chance to win. He stabbed to throw the game.
17 Feb 16 UTC Thanks Gobbledygook(England), I thought you were a real danger of solo'ing in this game, probably only one move away from it due to the fact that you had Germany and Scandanavia locked up using a minimal percentage of your units, and had a weakened captmiki(France) squeezed between us in French territory.

I knew of Gobbledygook(England)'s intention to stab captmiki(France) in advance, but I kept it a secret and didn't discourage it one bit. That stab came at an ideal time for me, plus it threw captmiki(France) into such a revenge-filled mindset, that provided me the momentum to turn the tables. I used all the press-skill I could muster to stoke those flames of revenge in captmiki(France)'s heart, which worked out as hoped. Then in the end I misled captmiki(France) into thinking that I would be content with a draw that left them in second place, when of course I was going for the solo all along.

Other players may not have realized or believed that I had cultivated the unusual England-France-Turkey triple from early on in the game. However my original alliance was supposed to have been with steephie(Italy). It amazes me how bad of a game that steephie(Italy) played -- declaring war on me just because I built one fleet at the same move when they built two fleets (ultra-anti-Turkish considering their cooperation with France). And that was after some awful early-game press from steephie(Italy), unnecessarily keeping the Munich move a secret and being unnecessarily coy about their intentions against Austria. Even after their ultra-anti-Turkish build, I still was willing to hold to my end of a generous offer of DMZ in Ionian/Aegean/EasternMed -- but then they turn around and declare war on me?!? And even a novice Diplomacy player can tell you that Italy has no chance of making any gains against a defensive-minded Turkey when Italy doesn't have help from either Austria or Russia. So I reluctantly had to abandon my original plan of a whole-game-long-alliance with Italy in favor of my "plan B", the longshot E-F-T triple. As expected, that 5 unit year was the peak of steephie(Italy)'s strength.

steephie(Italy) probably had thought that there was a Juggernaut in play, but I never had any intention of honoring any such alliance with creigh(Russia). Perhaps it's a shame, because creigh(Russia) turned out to believe that I would be a good neighbor, and they lived up to their end of all agreements. I think that creigh(Russia) is the kind of player who would have made for a good ally, and in another game I would have really liked to have been their partner. It made me sad to have to participate in their destruction, because I respected their game, but it was in my own game-plan right from the start that I was going to be attacking them. Creigh(Russia) was so severly disadvantaged in this game by being let down from a GOD(Germany) player who did the lame-ass move of a double-NMR instead of carrying their end of the weight of a Baltic battle. Otherwise, this whole game could have turned out very differently.
17 Feb 16 UTC A well deserved win WP. See you in the next one.
17 Feb 16 UTC gg, yea I was left with very little to work with by GOD. Italy trying to take over Germany too never works out very well with a Strong France/England putting the sandwich on.
17 Feb 16 UTC @Turkey: As I've explained to you many times, you gave me absolutely no reason to trust you from the start, plus you made at least one claim which was outright wrong, saying you moved to Ankara because that's anti-Russia while it really wasn't because it meant you'd have to build a fleet in Smyrna (anti-Italy) rather than Ankara (anti-Russia). That still doesn't add up. You gave me some reasons for suspicion.

After that, it seemed to me that the only reason you refused to see it as a misunderstanding was because of some grudge you seemed to hold against me.

Congratulations on your victory, but I think your view on what happened between us is rather biased. You knew what you planned so if you know that sure, my play was bad, but I had no clue what to believe and opted on the safe side due to your somewhat contradicting claims.
17 Feb 16 UTC Another spicy detail is that I got seriously screwed by a 24-hour extend which allowed Turkey to gain the edge which I would've had otherwise.

That screwed up even more than I expected on hindsight.
17 Feb 16 UTC @brainbomb(Germany): Yeah, you never really stood a chance given the bad situation that GOD(Germany) left you in. Same could be said for Lowell(Austria) in this game -- he never stood much of a chance given the layout of the alliances in the game. Austria is such a difficult country to play.
17 Feb 16 UTC @steephie(Italy): Of course my view is biased, that's why it called a 'viewpoint'. But honestly, that Ankara move was meant to be anti-russia positioning -- it enabled me to accomplish 3 goals at once: 1)guarding both of my shores without violating the generous DMZ in case you were going to move against me (which it turns out, you did); 2)getting a double-fleet build that would guarantee dominance over the black sea; 3) putting the army out ahead of the fleets for going after Sevastopol. If you hadn't declared war in our press during that build-time, my next move was going to be: A Ankara->Armenia , F Const->BlackSea , F Smyrna->Const
17 Feb 16 UTC And as for having "given you no reason to trust" ... I had given you a very good reason to trust me: I had agreed to a very generous DMZ that inconvenienced me, and yet I was still sticking to it; and would have continued to stick to you. A player keeping their word when it creates awkwardness ought to be a good sign of a player who should be trusted.
18 Feb 16 UTC Gg all. Yeah I basically never know what to do with Austria... and am also probably terrible at this game.

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Turkey
wpfieps (440 D)
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
20 supply-centers, 15 units
England
Gobbledydook (1389 D (B))
Survived. Bet: 5 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
France
captmiki (682 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
5 supply-centers, 6 units
Russia
Creigh (2741 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Germany
brainbomb (474 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Italy
steephie22 (182 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Austria
Lowell (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
GOD (384 D)Germany (Spring, 1902) with 3 centres.
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