Finished: 12 Mar 16 UTC
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1 days, 12 hours /phase (slow)
Pot: 744 D - Spring, 2021, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
Game drawn
04 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 2000: Last time Ukraine sent this message (to me) he used it as a set up to stab me and take two of my centers.
27 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 2004: think this will end in a three way draw, or will someone want to push for more?
05 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2006: It does seem no one will push for more. I just wonder, though, whether it wouldn't be more just to have me as the third part in the draw, if Turkey keeps NMRing.
06 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2006: Really...
08 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 2006: That will not happen I'm afraid
08 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 2006: That's utterly ridiculous. We could survive through the game being unbalanced from year one, thanks to Egypt not existing, but then Turkey, who had an easy ride thanks to the abovementioned CD, decides to NMR not once, but several times, precisely when he had become a solo threat!

Trust me, if Turkey had not given up on the game, I would have had a very solid chance of forcing myself into the draw, as I've done countless times in Classic. This resulting scenario is absolutely pathetic.
09 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 2006: Boo hoo
09 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 2006: Britain please stop. You have only 2 sc left so it's not gonna happen. You don't deserve it.
09 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 2006: I might not deserve it in this game, as my own performance was unremarkable, but I certainly deserve it a lot more than someone whose merit was essentially to take advantage of its nemesis CD at the very first year and yet fails to enter orders on a regular basis, thus jeopardizing the whole game in the end.

If you think the three of you played brilliant games which entitle you to behave so arrogantly towards someone righteously outraged with Turkey's startling lack of commitment, you're delirious. Firstly for believing great performances could possibly entitle you to such, and secondly for thinking yours were somehow noteworthy.
09 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 2006: It's about ethics in journalism.
10 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 2006: Not that it matters since I'm out of the game, but I do think it would be reasonable at this point for Spain and Poland to knock out Turkey before voting a draw. Of course it's gets dangerous because one or the other could try to stab for the extra center right at the end and take the solo.
12 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2007: A new Turkey has appeared, I will not NMR
25 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2011: who is vetoing the draw here?
26 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2011: As you can see, Turkeys bet is 0. So we are not gonna draw with him because that will be a very easy way for him to gain points. So when Turkey is gone, Spain and I will end this game together.
26 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2011: The only teason for not drawing is apparently that I took over a Civil disorder and that is in Austria's view a horrible thing to do
Still, I will fight as long as I can, I will not delay and maybe Spain or Austria tries a solo
26 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2011: I have fought for several years, but it is hard with a quarter of the units against three quarters
But it is their perogative to kill me first and then draw.
Apparently it is a dishrace to take over a Civil disorder, only punishable by death. But so be it. I would think it is more fun to play against a real player in stead of units just holding
26 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2011: I just practice my defending skills and enjoy the tactics.
26 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2011: My apologies for misstating: Austria should be read as Poland
26 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2011: I don't have a horse in this race, but it's pretty petty of you guys to not want to draw with Turkey *just* because he didn't have to ante up as much for taking over a CD. Like he said, it's a lot more fun to play against someone else than to just let the CD countries sit there.

Furthermore, Turkey's done a pretty good job since taking over. I understand if you guys had an agreement to go for the two-way draw, but if the only reason you don't want to draw with him is because his ante came from the player who CDd and not current Turkey, that's pretty petty. The game shouldn't be about the meta points, it should be about what's happening on the board.
26 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 2011: I have no problem with not wanting to split a draw three ways, for whatever reason. But it gets dangerous trying to split things three ways, because the closer you get to knocking the third player out, the easier and more tempting it becomes for one player to make a quick stab and solo.

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Poland
Rennske (546 D)
Drawn. Bet: 70 D, won: 372 D
32 supply-centers, 32 units
Spain
Drawn. Bet: 70 D, won: 372 D
32 supply-centers, 32 units
Britain
Defeated. Bet: 70 D
Egypt
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
France
vozzol (261 D)
Defeated. Bet: 70 D
Germany
Heffomite (255 D)
Defeated. Bet: 70 D
Italy
Defeated. Bet: 70 D
Russia
Wozzi (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 24 D
Turkey
ksako8 (1005 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Ukraine
Defeated. Bet: 70 D
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