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Finished: 01 PM Mon 18 Jan 10 UTC
Private Glorious Path
1 day /phase
Pot: 63 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Spell of Wheels (4896 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Italy the reason I am allowing him to take my sc's is because our agreement is.
I help you win... If I get a survive. That includes that he take my sc's as much as he wants as long as I have more than one.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Austria: you could try bud-gal too
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Germany ok but this isn't a morality contest but a highly immoral game
France manipulated you and me (and congrats to him for that) but now it's time that we try and stop him from winning.
even if he takes tun, losing warsaw, it will make it very difficult for him to reach 18scs.
but you need to decide what you want to do.
Even if you decide to support France, me and Turkey will be busy with other moves rather than just attacking you (for 0 extra points)
but you need to tell us what you are going to do.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Hellalt I'm telling you that. If he takes Tunis and loses Warsaw he still has Sweden and liv will fall with the flick of his finger and thus st.pete
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: ok Denis.
I'm getting really bored of writing pages with no effect.
Do what you want.
Why do you play the game if you are bored to get it to the end?
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I strongly doubt that he has stp and tunis with the flick of his finger but who cares about my opinion.
I just wish I had such pessimistic opponents every time I came close to a wta win.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I will deside and this being PP I will not let you know.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: To all that are concerned, A BUD-GAL and A SER-BUD will be fine with me.

I don't have anything else for them to do, as I'm trapped by "allies", so I'm almost in the same position that Germany is in.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Austria I would have vie support bud-gal if I knew that Germany would support gal-war
But now that I don't know that I may have tyr and vie support gal-boh.
Or most probably I will just consider Germany's decision to hide his decision just utterly stupid and issue hold orders.
Congratulations France.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Unless Turkey is going to be using A GAL for support, I could just setup A BUD-GAL and A SER-BUD and let you guys support it if you want to.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Okay fine I'll support turkey into warsaw
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Germany...I don't blame you for giving in to the peer pressure you are getting. I did try to to help defend your actions here. The truth is that England was the only one to raise the alarms against me and the entire board looked the other way until it becomes too late. Since you have declared your intentions to attack Warsaw, I must assume that you will do so, since you haven't lied yet in this game. I just want you to know that I sincerely would have kept my end of game agreement with you. I think you will still have a good shot at surviving. My intention was to never take STP from you. That is a center I will need to replace the lost Warsaw. If for some reason I am unable to take Tunis, Moscow is the next target of centers that I can reasonable hope to achieve.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I might change my mind so...
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: France - I tried to convince people to attack you. It just didn't work. You are good. =p I couldn't really touch you, being on the same side of the board and all.

Germany: If we had you in Moscow, and I help Warsaw, there really isn't any way that your unit in Moscow would be dislodged. As I have told you before, I will not attack you. It would be foolhardy to do so. I've been trustworthy thus far, except in the case where you made it clear you were moving against me in Moscow. I am moving Galicia to Warsaw with Ukraine's support. I hope that you will support me as well. =)
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: France - I tried to convince people to attack you. It just didn't work. You are good. =p I couldn't really touch you, being on the same side of the board and all.

Germany: If we had you in Moscow, and I help Warsaw, there really isn't any way that your unit in Moscow would be dislodged. As I have told you before, I will not attack you. It would be foolhardy to do so. I've been trustworthy thus far, except in the case where you made it clear you were moving against me in Moscow. I am moving Galicia to Warsaw with Ukraine's support. I hope that you will support me as well. =)
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Ahhh, sorry that submitted twice. Silly computer. >.<
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: ok. Austria@ vie s bud-gal then
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Does the board still believe I can't get Moscow in 2 years?
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I believe you can only take tun and nothing more.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: You can easily get St. Petersburg... And Italian supply centers. I don't think you can get Moscow, though.

Though ours moves went through. Great. =]
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Okay what did I say?
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Oh wait, didn't take your retreat into account. We might be alright...
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: We might be fine, depending on what goes on in the south. We're fine in the north, Germany. And you won't die, don't worry. =)
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: About the South: I couldn't risk ordering ion s tyrr hold and leaving tun unprotected.
If France got it would be the end of the battle there.
I asked you Turkey to not attack ion so that he thinks that ion s tyrr hold and go for tun which would have created a bounce.
Of course this was ultimately a 50-50 situation that didn't work but Tunis is not that important. protecting stp is.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I'm disbanding army Triest unless you have a better idea.
Turkey I think you need to build an army.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: @Italy/Turkey/Germany: What is there that I can do to help? Do I support the hold at WAR? Or support A VIE-BOH? Or what?
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: let's think about this when the next Spring phase begins Austria. I'm in 10 other games!
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Italy - I know to build an army, another fleet would be useless... And how is protecting Tunis not important? We really can't protect St. Petersburg.
15 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: yeah, I know. We are in some deep shit.
15 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: ok I think I've analyzed the situation.
the is no possible way to keep tun or stp
we can't even hit mun. even with tyr, boh and sil it will still fail.
So it seems game over to me.
We can only hope for a big tactical failure from France.
Turkey, I'm going to have to ask you to not attack ion with or without support.
this time for real.
other than that you can try getting liv (and probably lose warsaw in the process
vie moves to boh. Austria pls support.
It was my mistake to retreat to rom.
If I had retreated to tus I could threaten mar this year.
15 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: I had you covered even with Tuscany. I would have attacked Tunis from WMS and MAO would go to Spain to support MAR. There is nothing you could have done to prevent it.
15 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: @Italy: Ok, I've got A GAL supporting A VIE-BOH.
15 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: I don't get when and how this got out of control.
I thought I was always cautious to not let France go for a solo.
15 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: Okay France take st.Pete for the win This will only drag out and get me killed
15 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: In exchange for a support hold in Moscow....
15 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: LOL...I will take STP in the fall for sure. Tunis will happen this turn. Game won't end until after the autumn move even if I was in both places at the end of the turn.

This has been a very enjoyable game for me...most public press games usually are...even when you are getting stomped....probably even moreso. I guess Austria is no longer "dead man walking" :)

Anyway, I always enjoy playing with you hellalt...I think you actually invited me to this game if I remember...maybe not...poor memory. Denis...thanks bud, I kinda feel this is payback for the live game we were in where your Turkey stabbed my Austria. And I think this was my first game with the rest of you. Look forward to seeing you all again.

My fall moves should be pretty simple. Hold the middle. Take STP and Hold TUN.

I still say I can get MOS in another year or two....but that will have to wait for another time ;)
15 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: I will be moving st.Pete to Barents so you are welcome to take it in the spring.
PS haha that game was fun I forgot how it turned out but stil fun.
16 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: Good game guys. =) It was fun. First global chat game haha. I think I did alright. Ish.
16 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: good game all.
Austria congrats for staying alive.
Spell of Wheels I think we have played before but I can't remember our last game(s) so I ll just consider this the first official one. Your performance was one of the most impressive I' ve seen. I will keep an eye on you and think twice before inviting you again :P
16 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: Hellalt we played an anonymous public press game not too long ago. I was Germany and got double teamed by England and Russia...Rlumley was Turkey. I was close to winning that one until France turned on me. Anyway...I always see people post in the forum what a hothead you are...which I don't understand because in these PP games you have been very analytical and diplomatic.
16 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: yeah I remember now.
That was an interesting game.
I can be a forum hothead and a normal player at the same time.
Although sometimes I tend to explode especially in pp games and especially if there is nothing to gain from being diplomatic anymore like in late game.
I'm still trying to control it.
16 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: Denis...let's finalize please.
16 Jan 10 UTC Italy...obviously I don't need 19 centers...but I will want you to dislodge me from Naples.

Good game everyone.
16 Jan 10 UTC Does the number of scs in wta play any role in ghost rankings btw?
gg all
16 Jan 10 UTC I don't really understand the GR...and I am not sure about the winner... But I do think it matters for the survivors...perhaps another reason Denis should have let me have Warsaw, so I didn't have to take STP ;)
16 Jan 10 UTC Yeah, I don't really get the ghost ratings either. =p But if supply centers matter, that's cool. =]
16 Jan 10 UTC no supply centers don't matter. it is wether you draw or win etc, and who you play against. this is a sitter by the way ;)
16 Jan 10 UTC gg
16 Jan 10 UTC Oh cool. Hello. =p Welcome to our nearly finished game. =)
17 Jan 10 UTC Great game!

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France
Spell of Wheels (4896 D)
Won. Bet: 9 D, won: 63 D
18 supply-centers, 16 units
Turkey
Elleynn (407 D)
Survived. Bet: 9 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Italy
hellalt (113 D)
Survived. Bet: 9 D
5 supply-centers, 6 units
Austria
msmth82 (579 D)
Survived. Bet: 9 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Germany
denis (864 D)
Survived. Bet: 9 D
1 supply-centers, 2 units
Russia
frito (408 D)
Defeated. Bet: 9 D
England
Hunter49r (189 D)
Defeated. Bet: 9 D
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