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Finished: 10 AM Tue 17 Nov 15 UTC
Treebeard
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 175 D - Autumn, 1907, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
16 Nov 15 UTC good game, nathan smith
16 Nov 15 UTC nice game y'all
16 Nov 15 UTC after all the advantage, austria still managed to survive :(
16 Nov 15 UTC GG. So, Germany when a Juggernaut seemed very likely, why did you keep pressing into me instead of attacking Russia with England?

Italy, when I was backing away from you and didn't take Naples like I could have, and when Turkey was growing very quickly and had a wide open Ionian Sea which would have allowed you almost free reign against Turkey, why didn't you attack him? I admit, I should have pulled back a bit earlier from you, but I was hoping Germany would go against Russia sooner.
16 Nov 15 UTC Austria done good :P
16 Nov 15 UTC Because at that point my sole concern was helping the German attack on you.
16 Nov 15 UTC Austria, nice job sticking around, but that was the weirdest opening I've ever seen. Bohemia?
16 Nov 15 UTC Turkey my compliments to you, good game on your part, timing wise. Russia, didn't get a chance to encounter you, sorry to see you leave early. England thanks for not taking Brest when you could have, and for not going for me when you also could have.
16 Nov 15 UTC If there was ever a juggernaut it didn't last past 1903
16 Nov 15 UTC honestly. my opening, my entire game I just kept saying
keep going man. keep going.
16 Nov 15 UTC Germany held me up, and you could have helped him attack me while also moving into Ionian. It was obvious you were Turkeys next target, which is why I pulled back, so that you could pressure him more.
16 Nov 15 UTC There never was a jugg as far as I was concerned
16 Nov 15 UTC my opening was terrible but everyone attacked me so I couldnt really pull off anything interesting.
16 Nov 15 UTC France, why did you come south in 1902? I had opened east, against Austria and England was way over-extended. I think I kept pushing you later in the game because I was so mystified and pissed off by your initial decision.
16 Nov 15 UTC I tried to help you Austria, by going for Italy to relieve some pressure from you.

Germany your moves made a bit more sense, Russia wasn't really a threat and him and England fighting was good for you. I remember being worried at that time that Russia would soon attack you, and he might have had not Turkey attacked him first.
16 Nov 15 UTC I was unprepared for the 1905 moves where England and France collapsed too quickly for me to really have any chance of solo'ing past that point, and Germany wisely headed my was immediately that year, which sealed the deal
16 Nov 15 UTC Honestly, I like attacking Italy as France, early on. Russia and England fighting usually helps and I didn't think Germany would keep pressing on me with Russia at his back. Plus it looked like a possible juggernaut and your attacking Austria meant that if I attacked you or if I didn't Turkey would still have a vacuum to grow in. By attacking you, I had hoped to give Austria time to delay Turkey, which it did.
16 Nov 15 UTC I am enjoying Live games, I need to play them more. Gunboat really helps your board reading.
16 Nov 15 UTC By not attacking me, Austria would have been out of the game quickly, I would have to bottle up Turkey and you would have been able to take the English home centers. I guess I just fundamentally disagree with you, I feel that France moving south is almost never a good idea if England is still in the game. You have to go so far and you still only get 3 centers.
16 Nov 15 UTC Usually what I have seen with France moving south early, is Turkey has to build fleets to cross the stalemate line, which means he has less armies and Russia has more of a reason to attack him. My best games as France have always involved my going South instead of North.

I get bored of France and Germany attacking England early on, I see it too often and too often am on the receiving end so I am not as inclined to do that, sadly, although your point is well made. It was you build fleets and we have to fight later, or I try and knock you out now and since I am going after you I do not appear to be as much of a threat.
16 Nov 15 UTC Still, thank you for the good fight!
16 Nov 15 UTC Interesting points. I see Italy and France as natural allies, especially in a gunboat game, because there is such an easily marked separation between the two. Stay out of Piedmont, GofL, and Western Med. Switzerland helps keep you away from each other and there are concentrations of dots for both in the opposite direction.
16 Nov 15 UTC I might just have to try that again :) Perhaps in another game between the 2 of us?
17 Nov 15 UTC Look forward to it

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Turkey
wpfieps (440 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 35 D
13 supply-centers, 11 units
Germany
nathansmith90 (120 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 35 D
12 supply-centers, 10 units
France
Espi (338 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 35 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Italy
Heffomite (129 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 35 D
3 supply-centers, 4 units
Austria
brainbomb (474 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 35 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Russia
Marz (505 D)
Resigned. Bet: 25 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
England
PiC (1848 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Civil Disorders
Marz (505 D)Russia (Spring, 1907) with 5 centres.
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