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Finished: 10 PM Fri 08 May 15 UTC
Pewpew Lasers
2 days /phase
Pot: 74 D - Spring, 1905, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
22 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: *sigh* NMR England and Turkey. Most unfun.
Russia: Oh well. You're in luck. I really should have ordered Den-Swe since no response from England, but I was being hopeful... :-)

France: Sorry about not clearing out of Bur properly. :-/ Awkward, and not intentionally so, I promise. I can support MAO-EngC if you like, or you could support Bel-EngC, since England is NMR.
22 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: But don't they have to NMR for two phases before they enter into civil disorder? They could still come back this turn. Right?
22 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Austria: I assume they could come back at any time unless replaced? Not 100% sure.
22 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Yep, unless it says, "Left."
22 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: I got Greece. Love you 5ever you babe austria
22 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: That is rather inconvenient, since it blocked my build, but it is fine. You can just destruct it now anyways.

It looks like I will be occupied in the South with Italy, sadly. It also looks like England is gone. Perhaps just an FG alliance will have to suffice. I would greatly appreciate support into EngC now. I've missed my fleet build in Mar, which will put me behind, but if we're non-aggressive to each other, I should be able to hold my coastline with armies and begin pumping out fleets with England's old SCs. That'll leave me with a total of 4 fleets, 2 in the north and 2 in the south, which should be enough to cap Italian hostilities and still help you deal with Russia sufficiently.

@Italy: Please just no. Everyone knows Italian/French confrontations never get anywhere without significant resources, of which neither of us have. Mar->Spain blocks you, if you move to Golf of Lyons then it just opens up a reinforcement into Mar supported by Spain. I can leave a fleet in MAO for the one you build this turn. To get anywhere you'd have to leave Venice exposed and leave only 1 unit available for invading Turkey. Austria seems like a nice enough fellow, but you'd basically be handing him 3-4 Turkish SCs plus an easy stab on Venice/Greece for 2 more. He's amicable, not stupid. I urge you to reconsider your strategy.
22 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Kind words from Frenchy. Anyway, this is an interesting game. The NMRs do take something away from the fairness, but it happens all the time in Dip. I think I am stuck the rest of the game, unless Italy and Russia want a 3 way alliance.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: France: Yeah, I'm perfectly happy to order support to EngC, especially if you'll order support Bel-Nth later. This is all predicated on England actually staying gone, of course. None of this works at all well if they come back.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Maybe your right my french friend. You guys do make good croissants.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Austria: I like your idea of an alliance. We can make a strong team.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: It's not just up to you and me. I could use a build to shore up our central forces. Bulgaria, maybe?
27 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: France: Just confirming, BTW - F Bel S F MAO-EngC is ordered.
27 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Will one of my neighbors support Serbia to Bulgaria?
27 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: I will.
27 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Germany: Confirmed. MAO is moving to EngC.
27 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Spacibo, Russia.
27 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Just wanted to introduce myself as the new Britain
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Hello new Britain.
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Hi Russia. Where can I help you in Germany? Hope you don't mind that I moved there. I didn't want to give away the move. Thanks for Bulgaria.
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Wow. I totally entered the wrong move for MAO... I have failed us both Germany. Best of luck.
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: I don't see any way for us to remedy this situation I have put us in. I have no pressure on London. Belgium -> North Sea? while I move to EngC?
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: France: At this point? Give up the war on England and just let England disband your fleet in LVP, it is pointless. We both have *much* bigger concerns, and frankly, so does England. A Bur S Mun would be greatly appreciated though.

England: Ok, can we talk about EFG? :-) Because right now, if we don't do something, Russia is just going to sweep west and eat us all. You can (and should) recover Liverpool. But I think it would be strongly in our interests for you to move Edi-Nwg whilst I move Bel-NorthSea. A Russian fleet in North Sea would be very very bad for all of us.

Austria: Really? What are you expecting to get out of this? Russia isn't going to leave your SCs alone for long. Where do you think his next easy target SCs are?
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Really, Germany, what choice do you think I have?
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Austria: Make friends with Italy, which he's obviously happy to do? Should work pretty well - you'll need each other for obvious reasons. But just to put the question again - what do you actually expect to get out of helping Russia attack me? The more SCs you give R, the sooner R is going to come for you.
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: It's just a game, Germany.
Italy knows I cannot hurt him. I am happy to team up with him too. I have no intention of hurting Italy, having helped him into Greece. Should Italy work his way into Aegean, I would be glad to help him. Also, my fleet is at his disposal, should he wish to use his Ionian fleet somewhere west.
Italy, just say the word, and I'll help you.
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Austria: Of course it is just a game. I'm just pointing out that helping Russia that way, you are just going to help yourself to get eliminated either first or second, depending on how badly things go for me. :-)
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Thanks for the free analysis.
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Free analysis, with heavy weight towards the survival of the germanic empire.
28 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: France: Well, of course. This is Diplomacy, eh? That doesn't mean I'm wrong, though. If I collapse in the face of Russia, Austria is pretty much obviously next. If I don't collapse, then, well, Austria is still the next most obvious target for Russia. Even a CD Turkey is not so easy a nut to crack, unless Russia wants to throw caution to the winds and assume Turkey will stay CD.
29 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: I think you mean Italy.
29 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Germany: Austria's probably helping me attack you because Austria, Italy, and I all are still cooperating to take Turkey, and he has spare armies. Seems kind of obvious really. Austria always could attack Italy or I, but then Turkey's absent SCs just sit there. Neither of us stand to benefit from fighting each other. And really, none of this would be happening without you attempting to make me lose Sweden to England. -sigh- We should've all just voted "Draw."
Austria: Since I can really only support you into Turkey, might you help me with Munich?
29 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Of course, Russia. Supporting Berlin to Munich. I suspect Burgundy will support Munich to hold.
29 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Also, I see a few Draw votes. Is this what everyone wants to do? I would vote that way, if so.
29 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: We used to be about peace. I'm definitely not Hitler so I would maybe vote draw
29 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Well, I'm happy to vote Draw. :-) I just wanted to holiday in Holland and Denmark...
29 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1904: We are a funny lot.
30 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: I guess everyone wants to draw.
30 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Russia: As I look back at the maps and recall, I was the one poking Sweden as a defensive measure for Norway, not trying to help England into it. But ah well, things happen.

Turkey: Where are you? World peace is on the table! Take it, quick!
30 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: He seems to be AWOL. Should we draw with someone AWOL? I feel like that is very undeserving of points.
01 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: This is all too familiar. Everyone wanted peaceand except Turkey. Oh well. If we are to continue, Austria, may you support Silesia into Munich?
01 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Actually, on further thought, I don't need any help this turn. Thanks, though
02 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Ok.
02 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Italy, shall I help you into Con? Russia, now I will try for Munich, and you can try for Berlin. Then you can try for Berlin and/or Denmark. I can help you into Berlin after I take Munich, if you need help.
04 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: I guess this is what going on holidays in Holland and Denmark gets me. Ah well. C'est la guerre.

France: *le sigh* Not very helpful. You've pretty much guaranteed that Russia will now be able to stomp me. And longer term, England and yourself. Oh well.
04 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: We have all voted for a draw, Germany.
04 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Russia wins on brownie points, though. :)
04 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Just gotta finish off Turkey. Russia will take Ankara. Italy can support Bulgaria into Constantinople, then take Smyrna. Sound good?
04 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Austria: So we have. :-) France wasn't, for a bit there. Turkey looks to be completely AWOL. Italy could also do Aeg-Smy in Spring then Smy S Bul-Con for Fall.
04 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yes, it would seem that way Germany, but if Russia wins, I survive. Remember how I said I would take back my borders? I would remind you Belgium had been annexed into the good graces of the Democratic Republic of France. Moreover, I expect we will all draw after Turkey is dealt with; I expect this will happen shortly after you have been consumed, but before my borders are significantly threatened. Good luck 'defending the East'.
06 May 15 UTC Hehe. It would appear our desires for peace have actually worked. Thanks all, this was quite amusing.

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Russia
gamrana (126 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
France
TamaraSlayer (125 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Italy
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Austria
nicknukem (95 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Germany
thorfi (1023 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
England
HadBro (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 4 D, won: 12 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Turkey
jrubien (149 D)
Resigned. Bet: 10 D
3 supply-centers, 2 units
Civil Disorders
jrubien (149 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1904) with 3 centres.
saxophonemaster (100 D)England (Autumn, 1903) with 3 centres.
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