Finished: 07 PM Sun 07 Jun 15 UTC
I'll win diplomacy one day. Just not today.
3 days /phase
Pot: 91 D - Autumn, 1912, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
24 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: ... I kinda wanna take that since im Russia xD
24 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: GameMaster: UHCPLAYER101 was banned: Repeat Multi. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
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24 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: lots of bans this game
25 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: This game should have been called: I'll win diplomacy one day. If I play all seven powers (at once).
25 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: that is very true
25 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Shall we cancel?
25 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: I don't want to cancel. I'd rather work with players with ethics to drive the cheaters out.
25 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: I am one of the players with ethics. So you're already down one.
25 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: honestly I want to draw based on my current standing unless turkey is fine with me living here
25 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Turkey is not fine with that ;)
25 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: For the players who were banned for 'repeat multi', does that mean they were playing two different countries in this game? Because as far as I can tell, only Russia has been changing hands after the bans.
25 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: probably 2 different people multi accounting
27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: GameMaster: TMNT was banned: repeat multi. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
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27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Time to cancel the game...
27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Yeah I'm not ready to cancel. Does that mean that they were two countries in this game with the same player or someone playing multiple accounts in different games? Because those are two different things. I wish it was clear which country or countries were affected.

Also, just because me and Turkey ran over you Austria doesn't mean the game is unfair, just unlucky for you this time.
27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Listen, if Turkey and Italy ran me over fair and square, fine. But if there were powers that could have checked them that were under the control of the same player and were therefore engineered to be stomped on instead--that's where I have a problem
27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: I have to agree with Austria I joined this game beacause it sounded like a challenge but sounds like it needs to be canceled
27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Ok I hear that, but I don't think Turkey and I working together to outmaneuver you would've changed regardless of the situation. You had me on the back foot with Venice for a little bit, but I guess luckily, for now, Turkey has been a trustworthy ally. I have no doubt that may change with you off the board. But you had just as much of an opportunity to target Russia's SCs or take me out or whatever.

We don't even know which country or countries were affected. If someone was multi-ing, it was taken care of, and clearly they didn't gain anything. If Turkey, Germany, France, and England want to continue, let's keep playing.

I know it's hard playing Austria, it's also hard playing Italy. Not everyday an Italy play through lasts this long, for me at least...
27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: I hope you won't take it personally that I don't entirely trust you to have not multi-ed... looking at the moves, it seems a bit suspicious. That, and you're the only one arguing for the continuation of the game...
27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Speaking as the grand sultan, I can tell you part of the reason turkey is doing so well is that Russia was a no show at the beginning of the game, but no one complained about that, and personally, I think its because the desert gods wanted me to win this game.
27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Well if you have the desert gods on your side, that changes everything--you should have said so earlier!
27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Either way, if Russia was a no-show, that does kind of impact the balance of the game; as Germany said earlier, this game should have been called.
27 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: im newbie to this site and already I can tell this game should have been cancelled
28 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Sorry Austria, I have to correct you. I have been Germany the entire game. I said the game shouldn't be cancelled. but thanks for TRYING to put words in my mouth.

Turkey and Italy did well because: a- They worked together, (not really novel in Dip, actually it is the way to prosper).. b- Russia I, whether or not he was playing multiple games, he wasn't playing this one, a few NMR's and you are cooked. c- I proposed a western triple (privately and globally) that would have been fun and made this game salvageable. d. There are NO desert gods, Turkey. e. Newbie Russia, why would anybody take over a one unit Russia in a classic variant of this game, unless they were a total moron, it is ludicrous at best. You have one unit, your opinion and the suggestions you make should carry the same weight .

Bottom line, play the game fair, play it to the end, play it by the rules and for Christ's sake it is only a 10 point bet, It isn't Vegas hard-asses and you get it back if your under 100.
31 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1905: ok I took this spot because I like games where im at a disadvantage because if I make a comeback its a big one. that's the main reason I joined. the other one is I like a challenge and I thought this would be fun. I am not a noob I am new to this site but have been playing diplomacy for years. additionally, I join games like this so I can get a feel for the over all community of webdiplomacy. so don't go around making me sound like a moron and play the game as it is. yes there have been non moves but we can just have those people kicked and wait for new players. its completely up to you guys. im just here to have fun it is simply a game and should be treated as such its not super big deal!
06 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: GameMaster: mynamejeff was banned: Repeat Multi. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
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06 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Seriously, Russia was a multi again?!
07 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: I am going to vote to cancel. This game has become a farce. The speech by another cheating Russian, truly? This isn't worth my time.
07 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Full disclosure. I will hold each season. And disband all retreats. I will still make all deadlines with the exception of a pause I need for Apr 22 through Apr 25.
07 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: The blinding light of the ever advancing desert sun into the farthest reaches of the Russian empire will drive every czar into an unspeakable madness.
07 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: ...and now that light shines on the German Kaiser
07 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Put the flashlight down Sandy.
10 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Hello! I am Czar Nicholas II of Russia! What is this talk about flashlights and madness?
11 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Czar Nicholas II? Can I call you the late Czar Nick? Too late, that's what you are stuck with.. We've had more fake Russias, than Jason and Rocky had movies in the 70's and 80's (look it up youngins, that's funny). This game is the slowest road to Oblivion you'll ever take. As far as madness, the Sultan would be the expert. He's "ever advancing" on the cardboard battlefield, especially when he has no opposition. He probably plays a cut-throat game of chutes and ladders as well, Keep an eye on him.

Honestly, Late Czar Nick, read the global history. this game wasn't worth the 1 point you bet. But my press was.
11 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: I did already. I can assure you that I am not a cheat. However, I believe that we should cancel. A game with one sneaky cheat is one thing... but TWO?!? That is a bit far, especially in a game this small. In World Diplomacy it's not a big deal, but it ruins the game with seven or less players. So, Czar Nick (I will not be the LATE Czar Nick until the Bolshevik Revolution) decrees: CANCEL PLEASE!
11 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Also, the Sultan's odd analogies aren't true. We are completely sane in Russia, whether we are being attacked or not, unless you count Joseph Stalin. But he isn't in power yet.
11 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: How about Rasputen. he never struck me as an "all together" guy. you are still 'late' to the party, but welcome Nick.
11 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Good points.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Even if I am dead, what the heck. ENGLAND take back Edinburgh!
03 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: Really?? I haven't moved in a month and still I'm requested to put in moves? Why can't someone take over this tortured game? I've got to say Turkey, your desert gods seem almost as worthless as the god they pray to in that region anyway. Tell me why this game wasn't a cancel again?
05 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: If you insist, I would be willing to accept a draw, Germany.
06 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: How big of you England, If you were maybe, Italy or the crazed Sultan, the gesture would be magnanimous. Alas, you have only three units, i.e. loser, I have to think it won't happen. However, I will vote for the draw, damn little good that will do.
06 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: Such hurt feelings. Geez. What happened to, it's just a game? Happy to see you're all alive!

We could draw or we can try to see how much we can make the crazed Sultan bleed :P
06 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: I have had a draw and a cancel vote in forever. I'm willing to work toward a draw or the elimination of the sultan as long as the press is all in global. That way the sultan can see the writing on the wall (Sultan that originally came from a little south and east of where you reside). Thoughts welcome (publicly, of course).
07 May 15 UTC Spring, 1909: Sure let's do it. Try to at least make it a challenge for him to get the last three centers. Should focus on taking Munich back. I can support you.
13 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: You guys want to support Berlin to Kiel?
13 May 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: No, they don't. Ask the desert sun if he wants to shine in Kiel.
02 Jun 15 UTC Spring, 1912: Welcome, New England.
05 Jun 15 UTC The Sultan has allowed this game to end
05 Jun 15 UTC How very gracious of you.

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Turkey
Europeismine (442 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 23 D
15 supply-centers, 15 units
Italy
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 23 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Germany
Flashy (176 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 23 D
7 supply-centers, 5 units
England
Lirandil (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 2 D, won: 23 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
France
Defeated. Bet: 6 D
Austria
CommanderS (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 1 D
Civil Disorders
QMet (340 D)Russia (Spring, 1902) with 4 centres.
Contagious (106 D)France (Spring, 1906) with 4 centres.
Lucasblack (100 D)England (Autumn, 1906) with 2 centres.
Champ1001 (0 D X)Russia (Spring, 1904) with 2 centres.
UHCPLAYER101 (0 D X)Russia (Autumn, 1904) with 1 centres.
TMNT (0 D X)Russia (Spring, 1905) with 1 centres.
mynamejeff (0 D X)Russia (Autumn, 1905) with 1 centres.
lmat (100 D)England (Spring, 1911) with 1 centres.
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