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Finished: 09 AM Tue 17 Feb 15 UTC
Heartache Tonight II
16 hours /phase
Pot: 280 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by FM Roark (891 D)
25 Jan 15 UTC Spring, 1901: Good game everyone!!
25 Jan 15 UTC Spring, 1901: Well, it appears that Germany is not here. My cancel vote is in.
30 Jan 15 UTC Spring, 1903: Apologies for the NMRs. I should not have joined a 16 hour game.
01 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: To all the nations of Europe. All of the continent grows weary of blood and war. I have submitted a draw offer which all of the Powers have chosen to ignore. I imagine that some of the Powers may have enticed you with promises of a two way or even a three way victory. I ask you, do you really believe that is a likely outcome or even that it is possible.

I strongly advise everyone to vote for the draw and for everyone to put pressure on their allies that won't, and I mean serious pressure.

14 hours before the next turn. Let's see if we can get this done by then.
02 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: It would be nice to draw. But I doubt Russia will draw after literally every nation on the board has handed him a solo on a platter like this. He's taken Trieste also for Christs sake with no army around him in sight and can devour both Turkey and Germany (plus northern England) without breaking a sweat.
The only country who tried to stop Russia (me) was promptly ganged up on by G and F while Turkey is content to sit in the corner and Austria and Italy fought paving the way for Russia.
I guess everyone has great love for Russia. I just didn't realise that Diplomacy was about going out of your way to hand one country the solo in a WTA game.

If anyone is remotely serious about playing this game - stop the fucking Russian solo. Its too late in about 2 moves once he starts crossing the stalemate lines.
02 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Congrats guys. You convinced turkey to screw the jugg for a nice split. now we will have to split with a couple more of you. Who will it be? Let's find out!
02 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Can we slow clap for Germany please??
You're not going to believe this but even in 1903 he sent me messages which said: "Oh, so where's the Jugg now huh?" Lol.
And when I called Jugg in Spring 1901, his logic was - And you can't make this shit up - "I asked Russia if Turkey if they were Jugging and he said no - so you must be wrong"
02 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: for the record, I was not going to jugg when I told him that. but then Italy went ape on Austria, which changed the game. Germany was well placed in his trust at the time.
02 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: You had an understanding with Turkey in 1901. It was a planned bounce in Black Sea. It was planned that you would take Rum and he Bul and try for Greece. You would not have moved to Galicia in Spring 1901 if you did not have an understand with Turkey. No Russia moves to Galicia without having some form of arrangement with Turkey.
It might not have been a hard and fast alliance but it was enough to indicate a Jugg. Doesn't take a genius to recognise it.
Go through any high level game in this site and show me how many times G does not bounce R in Swe when such a Spring 1901 develops.

And forget not bouncing - he didn't take any action in Spring 1902, Autumn 1902 also by which time the Jugg had been well rolling also. Even in 1903 he was clueless.Lol.

Italy and Austria fighting while this was happening was just the icing on the cake.
04 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Germany has NMRd multiple times now.
Does anyone else think we should just draw?
Hardly feels fair to carry this game on.
04 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1905: France, Russia and Turkey are refusing to draw while England and Germany are still on the map so i plan to punish France and Turkey by holding out long enough for Russia to get a solo. That's the way I'm playing it. In my opinion we if one of us deserves to lose then we all do.
05 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1905: I love your logic.
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: It matches your game.
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Punishment seems to be working...
09 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: Thank goodness the poor sports are finally finished.
13 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: gg france. I just got real sick of this game.
13 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: Thanks, it felt like the way this one should go.
13 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: Thanks, it felt like the way this one should go.
16 Feb 15 UTC gg you guys

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France
FM Roark (891 D)
Won. Bet: 40 D, won: 280 D
19 supply-centers, 17 units
Turkey
wanderer (153 D)
Survived. Bet: 40 D
12 supply-centers, 11 units
Russia
Beaumont (1259 D)
Survived. Bet: 40 D
3 supply-centers, 5 units
Italy
qtkat (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 40 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
England
Sh@dow (3512 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Germany
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Austria
sanfi (1709 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
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