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Finished: 02 AM Sun 07 Dec 14 UTC
diplo-17
14 hours /phase
Pot: 78 D - Spring, 1923, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
08 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: Welcome
14 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1905: Good game everyone. I failed to notice that this is a 14 hr game rather my usually 24 hr which explains the cd's. :( good luck everyone! (I have 2 other games as Russia: eerrrggg)
16 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1906: webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=150545
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18 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: I would suggests we draw, if the three of us remain allied I think we have stalemated.
18 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: ok lets draw ;)
18 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: Haha
18 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: Feel free to draw before I die
18 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: ;)
27 Nov 14 UTC Spring, 1915: Italy, piedmont --> marseilles

Germany, burgundy --> paris
28 Nov 14 UTC Spring, 1915: Wow. That was just cold.
28 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1916: I die knowing I put up a good fight considering every ally I had betrayed me throughout the game.
29 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1916: I didn't!
29 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1916: True, you're me only friend in the world!
29 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1916: Or at least Europe
29 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1916: Last chance to draw ;)
30 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1917: Thats my holy sea
01 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1918: Holy is relative! You were in my North Africa so it only seemed fair.
01 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1918: Ahat are you doing?
01 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1918: He's going to attempt a solo.
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1919: What do you mean what am I doing?
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1919: Ugh, I just realized that Turkey could build after I took Armenia. I thought the Army would be destroyed. Alas, I didn't think through the fact that we are in Spring...
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1919: Another season.
02 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1919: Germany, we should work together, dont fight each other
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: Shall we draw?
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: No. Eliminate turkey
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: I tried to die... I retreated to non-SC regions three different times in the last two years. Since no-one bothered to kill me then, it seems a bit callous to turn me out now.
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: Cuz, given current deployments, you will need to run into 1921 to take me out completely.
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: I cant really defeat you. Thats italy concern. There are 2 ways i will press draw. You eat italy's ass or italy eats you... You should not have much trouble taking some of italy's sc.
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: The other option is I hang around until Italy gets an SC from somewhere else and then gift wrap mine and a solo leaves you out in the cold.
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: We have a solid stalemate line, i call germany to support hold the line until one of them dies
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: I am happy to tie
02 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1920: Evidently not Italy or else you wouldn't have taken Sevastopol, I agree with England and will continue to hold the line.
02 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1920: Forgive me, Germany, but Italy has had a draw vote in place for a while now, so the meaning of the word evidently is evidently not the same for you as for me. As for stalemate lines, you'r unwillingness to draw renders my two ALSO a stalemate, as the Italians can't turn enough to face me without compromising their lines in some other part of the map for at least two more full years (getting the Tuscan and Trieste armies to where they can allow Serbia to move into Constantinople and Con to move into the waters of the Aegean or EMed).
02 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1920: I have a lot of patience
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: It is not my fault Italy is a fool, but I at least can wait.
03 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: You can't blame me for making a run of it. Can you?
03 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: I mean, no but I wish you had finished Turkey off, which is my only real criticism.
03 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: Yes, that was a mistake for sure. That being said, I am offering to draw now.
03 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: So, England, you are basically the ONLY one with nothing to gain or lose in an immediate draw vs being a survivor in a Italian solo, so what's the difference to you?
03 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: That you survive with 2 sc. The way you talk i think you are a > 300 points player. Entering the stalemate orders just takes 30 seconds of my life. 30 seconds I wish to spend on waiting for your elimination.
03 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1921: So you're making your decision based on my meta status (points?) you want to say that out loud so I can make sure I get it... You're off by quite a bit, btw, giving me way too much credit.
03 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1921: Here comes Italy to do the dirty work and knock me off :) One center will be down after this cycle and the next will fall this year. Merry Christmas, England. Sleep well.
03 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1921: Your alliance managed to establish a stalemate line, keeping two of you alive. My alliance managed the same (though technically, my alliance flopped for a while when Italy shot for a solo). But the fact remains, there are 17 centers on one side and 17 on the other. That is, by definition a draw.
03 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1921: As soon as Italy realized no solo was possible, he laid off destroying an earlier ally, so the draw would reflect the prior cooperation. What a nicely DIPLOMATIC way to end things in a game called... wait, what was it called again?
03 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1921: Someone's butt is hurt
03 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1921: Well, ad hominem is nice and all, but I am making reasoned arguments and you are calling me butt hurt... so... I think that may be projection?
03 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1921: I dont speak latin. Just understand my pov. I refuse to draw with players that have 2 sc. First play for victory, when that is not reachable, play to reduce the draw. In this case. Postponing the draw until italy defeats you.
03 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1921: OK. I'll let the players who have more SCs than me argue the point or not. I do note they have no problem with the concept.
05 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1922: So what are we doing here?
05 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1922: Waiting for turkey to be defeated

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Italy
Decorticator (149 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 26 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
England
Rylanzor (1909 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 26 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Germany
Jarte (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 26 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
France
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Austria
Ricgraz (100 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Turkey
jd97504 (111 D)
Defeated. Bet: 8 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
AaronT (100 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
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