Finished: 11 AM Thu 26 Feb 15 UTC
Lincoln > Churchill
7 days /phase
Pot: 88 D - Autumn, 1912, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by JaimeR (100 D)
19 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1908: I am fine drawing after England CDs...
19 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1908: My apologies then
26 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: OR.... Turkey sees a win in his future and will refuse to draw.
26 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: At this point, I've agreed to a two-way draw with Germany. It's a PPSC game, so my guess is that we will both honor that agreement.
27 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: What does that PPSC mean? And am in understanding you and Germany are the only two who will draw?
27 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: Question 1:

Question 2: yes.
27 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: Well, that's crap. I will not quit as others have done though, regardless of how unfair your little decision is.
If you both would like though, I still have my uniform from my military days that I will lend you to get other things you also don't deserve.
End of transmission, no response required.
27 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: Your tears make me so happy France! I do hope we play again!
27 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: I doubt we will JamieR as life is way too short to waste on fools. When I look for the next game to play, if I indeed do play on this site again, you can be sure I will make that selection based on who else is signed up.
I will however probably just stick with face to face games. That way I can at least be assured I am playing with other men.
Now be a good boy and let's finish this game as quickly as possible so I can be rid of you.
27 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: It's part of the draw back of playing PPSC. In all reality I believe either Germany or Turkey will win as one of them will want the win and without the stalemate line set up, it will be easy to take.
I would suggest playing in Winner takes all games if you want to play like traditional Diplomacy.
27 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: I appreciate the military references you've made, France, and repeated digs at my degree of maleness. Where I come from, one puts up or one shuts up, but I understand that there are parts of the world where a person's worth is judged by the magnitude of the phallus they claim to wield and the degree to which they belittle others. Along either of these lines, I'm quite sure you're a big, BIG man.

But here's the thing: you seem to have performed equally poorly in all of your games on this site, so it's no wonder you feel more comfortable playing in smaller ponds. What a wacky site where someone so obviously good at the game as you are can't get ahead here!

So get the fuck out, and bully someone else. Or stick around, play me again, and see if you can gain the upper hand. But either way, this game, you're going down.
27 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: Hahahahahaha!
27 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: And just so someone who reads this and doesn't take the time to read my profile, this is the third game I have played and yet to be eliminated.
If the points which you have garnered have all came by other powers dropping out and you being the beneficiary of that, then maybe a man with a phallus envy complex has finally found somewhere where he fits in.
I was taught the difference between right and wrong, a sense of fair play, and sportsmanship growing up. The end does not justify the means. Yes, the object of the game is to get as many points as possible, but to a man with a moral code, if the game has been compromised, then I don't want to gain what I did not earn fairly.
Another person without a moral compass, hiding behind a computer screen on the world wide web seeks only for o amass points, regardless of how they were obtained, so that he can in some pathetic way feel better about himself.
If you daddy didnt teach you that, I feel pity for you, and no amount of faceless messaging will make a difference to you.
Austria and I have played admirally given the THREE other powers who thoughtlessly quit during play. I have been lobbying for a draw since the first missed movement of the second dropout. That would have been the correct way to proceed for all, not just me. Now that the final dropout puts you in control, you are no longer for it, having voted for it for two years of movements. SHAME ON YOU!
So try to bend this conversation to make yourself feel better about what you are doing if that's what you need to do, but the only person who may not see it for what is, is the guy staring you back in the mirror.
Oh, and about your reference to face to face play, I have faced a very high degree of talent at those events that I have so far only seen from one player in my admittedly brief experience on this site. No, I am not referring to myself. And no, you wouldn't get away with this pissy crap were you actually facing the persons you were trying to screw. Come to think of it, that's probably why you do play here...
I've said all I will say on this matter. Sometimes when you argue with an idiot, its hard to see who the idiot is.
31 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: Unless Germany goes MIA....
31 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: Hello all, hopefully we can rescue this game from whatever idiot abandoned England... :D Let me get oriented some and we can talk individually.
31 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: Welcome. Get the fuck out of Armenia. ; )
31 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1909: Ha!
09 Jan 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: Cough cough, I'm not dead yet! I will be once Turkey readies orders though...
Despite Russia and the original England ruining this game, I still had fun.
Thanks all!
09 Jan 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: Gg, ty Austria. You fought well.
09 Jan 15 UTC Spring, 1910: Well played Austria! Hope to see you again in future wars...
11 Jan 15 UTC Spring, 1910: Turkey has won this game.
17 Jan 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: I've said I'll draw once France is out, and I meant it.
18 Jan 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Draw with only 3 SCs to go? That would be down right honorable. If that happens I'll start looking for the Easter Bunny :)
19 Jan 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: You said before you would draw once Italy was out. That WAS A LIE!
Then you said you would draw once England NMR'd and left. That WAS A LIE!
Summation - You ARE A LIAR!
England and Germany - do what you will, but it were me, I would rather be eliminated than share in anything with this pathetic loser...
29 Jan 15 UTC Spring, 1911: ALL-CAPS is best capitalization.
04 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Keep up the good work guys. Remember you aren't out of the game until that game is over. If JaimeR is going to win this game make them work for every SC they take. If you work together, you might even be able to force a draw. Keep talking, that is the key.
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Yes!
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Y'all probably can force a draw. But here's the thing -- you can also, 100% safely, force a draw with France out of the game. RIGHT NOW, Germany can squish Munich without opening it to my attack. Liverpool falls, and that's GG.

Just sayin'...
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Like you've said on two other occasions JamieR?
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: You have no honor. You are a scab on the ass of humanity!
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Germany and England can do what they want, I hope they decide against eliminating me and force you to draw. Not because I 'need' to be in on the draw, but because it's the right thing to do. By the way, I'm talking to Germany and England now, because I know you don't have the capacity to understand what it is that I'm talking about...
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: England and Germany - Stay the course. Force this guy to the right thing...
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Squishing Munich would require some good timing to make happen. Although Germany could support into Munich, and build a replacement unit in Kiel the next build, but if timed poorly Turkey could easily slip into Munich. Munich is the lynch pin of the stalemate line.

I think Germany could better use his units supporting Munich than taking it.
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Austria -- you're clearly right in general terms. But we're in a specific situation here. And the simple fact is that Germany taking Munich now can be done with absolutely no danger, and with England's help, the line is perfectly defensible.

Now, this may not be the case in a move or two, and frankly I think it's unlikely that Germany will do it. But you must agree that at the present time, this move is entirely doable.
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: True, butGermany would have to take it THIS turn or not at all.
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Don't sell me out guys...
05 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: I still think it would be a mistake to take you out. France is in position and the time it would take to build an army and get them in place takes too much time in most cases. Why spend orders replacing units when you can be using exiting units. Much better to use the orders elsewhere, in my opinion.

You will note that I have no units and am evidentially not a master at this game yet, but the logic of each unit can only carry out one order, and is therefore precious, still holds.
07 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: A read of the board makes it clear that I have won. Either Mar or Mun is falling in Spring, and either way it cannot be retaken.

However, since France said earlier he has never been eliminated, I reiterate my offer. Knock him out of the game, and I will accept a draw.
07 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Make him take it. He didn't earn it, just got lucky as three powers dropped out and he took advantage. Otherwise, he was going nowhere and voted for a draw for three straight years.
07 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: There will be no honor in a win for him and he knows it. That's why he wants me eliminated, for calling his punk ass out on it.
07 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Hell, just give him the supply center he needs and be done with it. You will still get your points for the Supply Centers you own.

That's the only real way to deny him what he wants...
09 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Just giving up is pretty lame (especially if you drop out of a game). I suggest you all fight on and make JaimeR earn the win. Besides, mistakes can happen that will let you prevent a win if you take advantage of it.
15 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1912: Hold the Line guys. Let sissy boy take what he didn't earn, but make him take it.
18 Feb 15 UTC Gg all
20 Feb 15 UTC Good try all. This was a very fun game for me even after I was knocked out. Thanks all!
21 Feb 15 UTC Yes, thanks to those who played well...
24 Feb 15 UTC Oh, and screw you thmcmahon, this could have been an even more interesting game if you had just tried.
24 Feb 15 UTC gg all. thanks for the interesting game. :)
24 Feb 15 UTC Thanks to those who fought the good fight...

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JaimeR (100 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 48 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
Birchford (167 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 19 D
7 supply-centers, 8 units
keladry12 (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 18 D, won: 16 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 6 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
RAZ000 (272 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
thmcmahon (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
pompil (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
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