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Finished: 02 AM Sun 07 Sep 14 UTC
Featured The Diplomat
1 days /phase
Pot: 772 D - Spring, 1908, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
13 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1901: Dear Germany
I think a strong alliance between is essential so we can ensure our early survival and face our other potential enemies.
If you agree I would be happy to discuss details.
13 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck to all!
15 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: I propose we consider cancellation if Turkey misses this and the next phase.
15 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: I am ok with cancelation.
15 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: I would support it as well.
16 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: We should cancel, Turkey is gone
16 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: I have voted to cancel.
16 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: Or draw?
16 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: I voted to cancel
16 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: if draw turkey and italy get points back. not fair
16 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: In terms of points, what would be the difference between draw and cancel?
17 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: Draw = 116.66 points/person. However, Italy would benefit from this.
Cancel = 100 points/person. We'd just be refunded as if the game never happened.
17 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: Well, we can't unanimously draw or cancel until Italy either votes that way or NMRs again. So let's play for at least one more turn and see what happens!
20 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1903: Everyone but Russia has voted to draw, including the new Italy and Turkey.

It's all down to you, Czar Nicholas II.
20 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1903: I'm not entirely clear on the need for a draw. The Turkey NMR helped Austria and I. The Italy NMR helped France (and possibly Austria). England and Germany are the only countries with cause for complaint. And Germany is doing quite well!
20 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1903: We now have 7 engaged players, and this is quite an interesting game! Just my opinion though. I would be interested to hear other opinions.
20 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1903: With the stakes involved, this should have ended after the first NMR, let alone the second.
20 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1903: Yeah, stakes are high, this is a good point.
20 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1903: I still vote for a draw and/or cancel
21 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Seriously, Russia...
21 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Why are we still playing? Russia has an enormous advantage and is the only one not voting for a draw or cancellation. Can we override his vote?
21 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Most of the games I've joined recently have had some sort of NMR in 1901. And most of those games have continued. Is it an unwritten rule that all games with a 1901 NMR should be thrown out?
21 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Turkey had NMR both seasons of 1901, and Italy was NMR Autumn of 1901 and Spring of 1902. That's more than just a missed phase.
21 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: And as a result of those NMRs, I got the Black Sea, Austria got the Balkans, and France got a free pass on his Eastern border (which has clearly now expired). You and Germany got the short end of the stick, so I can understand why both of you would want a draw. I don't understand the rationale for Turkey and Italy needing a draw. I believe both players joined the game after their respective NMRs.
21 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: So the person with the most obvious advantages says we shouldn't draw for fear of giving anyone else an advantage?
25 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1904: THIS SHOULD HAVE ENDED
03 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 1907: Draw?
03 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 1907: no 4-way?
05 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: Sorry Austria. You played a good game. Just so happens we were going for more of a...three way draw.
05 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: Well, it looks odd from my point of view. I would say that Italian part in this draw smells a bit meta - but can't prove this obviously.
Anyway I feel I desereved at least an explanation. I am not going to stop this game any more.
05 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: No meta gaming here. It was in Italy's best interest to work with me against you. Thank you for entering your orders. That's a classy move and I appreciate it.
05 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: My draw flag will go up when the next turn starts.
05 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: I can first hand say there's no meta gaming going on with me. It's simply that when I joined, I wasn't expecting to get much, but then an opportunity came to be part of a hefty draw.
05 Sep 14 UTC I think the game has been clean - I supported Austria to protect my rear but when it came to Italy going after Austria i felt if I did not help italy might coem after me with russia - and the three way draw was tempting.
05 Sep 14 UTC I'm certainly happy with the result. Well done Italy and Germany. It was fun allying with both of you.

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Germany
davidc1 (1551 D)
Drawn. Bet: 100 D, won: 257 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Russia
Asian Knight (2444 D)
Drawn. Bet: 100 D, won: 257 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Italy
TheReinvented (1360 D)
Drawn. Bet: 72 D, won: 257 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
England
Mafusma (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 100 D
France
Crash Casey (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 100 D
Austria
kapuczino (107 D)
Defeated. Bet: 100 D
Turkey
Albion (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 100 D
Civil Disorders
Nijemantingh (100 D)Italy (Spring, 1902) with 3 centres.
Albion (100 D)Turkey (Spring, 1904) with 1 centres.
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