Finished: 04 AM Tue 02 Sep 14 UTC
I just wanna play-2
1 day /phase
Pot: 40 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
11 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: GameMaster: Tryandfail was banned: Multi. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
11 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: Thats kinda annoying. How do we replace a player?
11 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: Someone else has to join. If we want we can put up a thread in the forum.
11 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: ok i put a thread in the forums.
11 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: what happens if we cant find anyone - does game continue without england, or does it end?
11 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: Continues without England doing anything.
11 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: ok
11 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: Hey guys,
I will give you a hand with your missing player.
11 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1902: thanks - appreciated
30 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: I will go to GReece
30 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: Shall we draw?
30 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: we can try! He really screwed me!
30 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: I would much prefer to draw after killing you two, actually.
30 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: That's unfortunate, because we are actually gaining ground and England is on our side.
30 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1908: Yes I oppose an Austrian solo win, but in order to be included in a draw, there has to be reason, and Italy is not in the position to really do anything now.
30 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1908: Er, Italy is not gaining ground, mmkay? And Sevastopol was very much a fluke. You have no chance of keeping it unless Germany and England both help you. I think I can convince those two I can be kept safely behind a stale-mate line.
31 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1908: You people clearly have no desire whatsoever for a game that finishes quickly. I will put my negotiation in Public for ease of use. England, if you take Tunis and don't bother me further, I would very much appreciate it. By the way, Germany doing well ain't too good for you, so be ready to stop him if he starts to take over too much. I am getting far too annoyed with this game to stop him soloing. Germany, we were headed for a draw. I don't understand what you hope to achieve here. You could have easily held the stale-mate line and so could England. Turkey, not much to say, since I still want you dead. Italy, same thing except more so.

England and Germany both - if you want a two-way draw, I am curious about the 17 17 center split you were planning. It seems pretty impossible to me. Otherwise, I am convinced you must both be going for a solo.
31 Aug 14 UTC I really don't want you to win now. Even if I die I am going to be a thorn that you will have you worry about while Germany crushes you on the other side
31 Aug 14 UTC Yeah, that sounds really fun.
31 Aug 14 UTC I would like to mention that I mostly gave up on winning the moment I drew Austria, then again when I saw the stalemate line form. I want a draw with as few players as possible.
31 Aug 14 UTC I was not going to sit back and just hold til you had your way with Turkey and Italy. Plus this way your forced to draw. So anytime you want to vote draw . . up to you.
31 Aug 14 UTC You aren't voting to draw either, so it's not up to me. It is up to you and Germany. Once you two vote draw, I won't have much choice, will I? I just don't want to vote it myself at least until Italy is dead. If you care at all about your record from this game, you won't vote draw until then either.
31 Aug 14 UTC I don't care about my record - a draw is a draw, it goes down the same on your record. And points, its a low stakes game - one more included, who cares. (well you do I am sure of that, you'll get over 100 this game no worries!!)

Yes you are correct, I haven't voted draw, I am leaving that up to my ally to decide what he wants to do. Also these rants by you about how things aren't going your way are far too amusing to give up so soon!
31 Aug 14 UTC Fair enough. Voting Draw now. It is after all low-stakes game.
31 Aug 14 UTC Hey Germany, we've decided that this game is getting to be a pointless waste of time, if you agree, please vote Draw with us. Thanks. It was nice playing with all of you, even if we had our differences.
31 Aug 14 UTC Austria --- you are a jerk and untrustworth!
England -- You blew-it!
Turkey -- I like being a thorn in their sides! :-)
31 Aug 14 UTC I don't subscribe to the theory that stabs should never be done. If my neighbor and ally is obviously collapsing, I will absorb what I can. Am I really a jerk for doing that? Am I any more untrustworthy than almost any other player?
31 Aug 14 UTC Actually, scratch that, I am less trustworthy than a good deal of other players. Russia is an unfortunate witness to that.
31 Aug 14 UTC Problem is your ally was not collapsing and would not have if his ally kept his back....or in this case just styed OUT of his territory. Thats all.
31 Aug 14 UTC Fair enough. I hope you don't expect anyone to be entirely trustworthy though. And I still think we had a good run. Very rarely does Austria take over both the Balkans and Russia before stabbing Italy.
31 Aug 14 UTC @Italy - England blew it? lol?
31 Aug 14 UTC Oh yeah, that's one thing I'd say you didn't do. There is absolutely nothing you could have done better than you did.
31 Aug 14 UTC In between helping as opposed to stabbing Germany, your attacks on Moscow, your current moves, convincing Germany to attack me, everything you did seems like the best move given the situation.
31 Aug 14 UTC That and I tried to warn Italy of your impending attack, but he failed to listen and look what happened . . lol
31 Aug 14 UTC Oh yeah, there's that as well.

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Austria
phil_a_s (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 8 D
12 supply-centers, 11 units
Germany
Elf (201 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 8 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
England
Attavior (1677 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 8 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Turkey
Jonny3x37 (100 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 8 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Italy
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 8 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
France
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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