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Finished: 11 PM Fri 24 Oct 14 UTC
Private One for Three SRG
2 days /phase
Pot: 82 D - Autumn, 1915, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by peterwiggin (15247 D Mod (S))
21 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 1911: Austria: 8 home 4 nonhome no builds
France 4 home 2 nonhome 1 build
Russia: 4 home 2 nonhome: 1 build
Turkey: 3 home 1 non. No builds
Italy: 1 non. Next retreat is disband
England: 2 home 3 non. No builds

Tell me if i made a mistake.
21 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 1911: 4 home for me. One build.
21 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 1911: Ok, sorry then.
25 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 1912: Uhh...
I guess the good news is I'm alive?
28 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 1912: Build situation, by my calculations, is as follows:

Austria: 9 homes and 4 non-homes = 10 units - Austria has one build
England: 3 homes and 3 non-homes = 4 units - England has one build
France: 2 homes and 2 non-homes = 3 units - France's next retreat must disband
Turkey: 4 homes = 4 units - No change
Italy: 1 non-home = 0 units - Next retreat must disband
Russia: 4 homes and 2 non-homes = 5 units - No change
28 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 1912: Would be interesting if Italy ends up with one SC and no units..
04 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1913: england, to save time, your retreat must be a disband.
04 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1913: How so? That makes little sense to me.
04 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1913: Oh right sorry miscounted. France is right. Not to save time though, to play by the rules :-)
04 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1913: it saves time if he makes a retreat instead of the disband.
04 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1913: Adjustments:
England: 2 home, 3 non-home, 3 units allowed. Kie must disband; next retreat must disband.
France: 1 home, 3 non-home, 2 units allowed. Next 2 retreats must disband.
Austria: 11 home, 2 non-home, 12 units allowed. Build 2.
Turkey: 3 home, 2 non-home, 4 units allowed. No adjustments needed.
Russia: 5 home, 2 non-home, 6 units allowed. Build 1.

How'd I do?
07 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: England has 2 home and 3 non-home, which translates into 3 centers, not 4, right?
07 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: 3 units, that is.
07 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: Yeah he messed up.
07 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: So who's messaging the mods? :-)
07 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: crap, sorry then. i was didn't notice this was the srg...
07 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: I messaged the mods last night.
08 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: We need to revert anyway, England got no build
08 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: I messaged the mods, and they said that jmo is the only one who can fix it and that it may take a few days. Could we try and pause in the meantime?
08 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: Ok.
08 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: Sure.
08 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: (2ndWhiteLine): So here's the deal for your current situation:

As you may or may not know, it is a royal pain to correct this error and we've already had to do it once in this game. We can't do this through the database, as it turns out, so the process is time consuming and cumbersome. I've paused the game while I figure out how to do it, but my question for you is whether this is absolutely necessary.
08 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: It is only necessary if Russia or Turkey deem it necessary. This is because they are the only two who could reach Edinburgh within the year. Let's say Russia wanted to take Edinburgh in the spring with Liverpool and try to attack Denmark in the Spring with the North Sea, where he would have got Edinburgh after the spring phase, he now needs support from the North Sea to take Edinburgh.

This is just an example and I am sure everyone understands it. I am not saying Russia is or is not attacking Edinburgh. Again, just an example. Regardless, the army could cause for some problems.

2WL, can't you just change the status of the game back to Fall 1913 Builds? From there, everyone can just re-enter their exact builds.

I believe it is as easy as remembering that Austria built an army in Vienna and a fleet in Trieste. Russia, a fleet in Sevastopol. If they change their builds to anything else, then I guess we will need your help again.
12 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: So what is the deal with this game? I wanted to stop it a while ago now, but it seems that we are just going to sit with it paused? I realize England still has the army in Edinburgh, but I want to stop checking the game everyday.
12 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: Probably contact the mods again if we still want them to go back one phase.
12 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: Hi. I'm back.
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: I got a message from 2ndwhiteline saying that the mods didn't want to go back and edit the game for me again. Perhaps if somebody else emails them, they'll move the game back and let us fix it ourselves?
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: What if I force England to disband it?
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: I'd be ok with that.
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: that should work. we coudl just act like i have an extra unit which would be disband next retreat.
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: Well, we have to make sure you're not using that unit to too much of an advantage while it's around :P
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: Yeah don't move that army.
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: fair enough. I'll just move it according to the whims of the rest of the board.
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: I agree to that. But that includes if Russia wants to move into Edinburgh freely. So if Russia wants to move Liverpool to Edinburgh, then that movement should happen without a bounce (because Edinburgh unit would not be there normally) So England, you will have to move Edinburgh to Clyde or something like that.
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: If Russia wants that, that is. If the other of the two units was going to hold anyway, it might as well support the move to destroy the army in Edinburgh so we're all good.
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: So should i move it?
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: England, private message Russia about whether you should move the unit or not. If those units were going to hold anyway, then i would prefer Russia just force the retreat on England. But if Russia has other plans, then England and Russia should talk about that. Any information on Russia's moves though will be too much information.
14 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1914: *If it is posted on the public chat that is.
15 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: Agreed.
17 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: Sorry, missing wifi.
17 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: At this point, I don't think any of us are putting too much effort into this, and I at least think the game is pretty broken. I'd rather not have a 5-way draw, but if you guys are willing to cancel, we can go do better things :-)
18 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: Russia: 4 home, 3 non-home, 6 units. Next retreat must disband.
Turkey: 3 home, a non-home, 4 units, next retreat must disband.
Austria: 11 home, 4 non-home, no adjustments needed.
France: 2 home, 3 non-home, 4 units, next retreat must disband.
England: 1 home, 2 non-home, 3 units, no adjustment needed.
18 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: A cancel, after so much blood, sweat, tears and sweat?
20 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1915: Hey look, we all followed the build rules :P
20 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1915: You counted wrong. I have 5 home SCs, not 4:

Sevastopol, Moscow, St. Pete, Edinburgh and Liverpool are all home SCs. That's five. Plus two non-homes in the form of Norway and Rumania. So I don't have to disband.
20 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1915: (I am allowed six units and that's how many I do have)
20 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1915: I stand corrected. I think I missed lvp.
24 Oct 14 UTC Well, that was an interesting variant, which I never want to play again.

GG Austria!
24 Oct 14 UTC Thanks for playing everybody, and I agree with Russia.
25 Oct 14 UTC Well done Austria!
Now if Russia would have accepted my support hold in Rumania we'd still be playing..

Oh well, we were dead anyway :-)

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Austria
peterwiggin (15247 D Mod (S))
Won. Bet: 12 D, won: 82 D
18 supply-centers, 12 units
France
shadow2 (2434 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
6 supply-centers, 4 units
Russia
Jamiet99uk (136 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
5 supply-centers, 6 units
Turkey
steephie22 (182 D (S))
Survived. Bet: 10 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
England
tvrocks (388 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Germany
Tolstoy (2033 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Italy
Squigs44 (191 D Mod)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
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