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Finished: 11 AM Sat 26 Jul 14 UTC
Diplomat's diploma
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 560 D - Autumn, 1913, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by KingJohnII (1536 D (B))
28 May 14 UTC Spring, 1901: Hello everyone, and good luck (although not too much :)).
03 Jun 14 UTC Autumn, 1902: Hmmm, this does not bad well for the East...
03 Jun 14 UTC Autumn, 1902: *bode, sorry auto correct.
09 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1903: Sorry for the wait guys, but I am visiting Europe right now and don't have a lot of time to check up on moves.
09 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1903: I'll be back in another 5 days so until then I'll be a bit slow with my moves.
09 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1903: Delay suits me too
16 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1904: Crap, I forgot to make moves before my flight. I took a 9 hour flight from Frankfort and I am still getting used to the 6 hour time change so I completely forgot about this game. I think I'm done for anyway but I rarely miss moves so I thought this deserved an explanation.
16 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1904: Thanks for explaining!
04 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: i think a 3 way would be a good outcome for this game
04 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: Then there were 5....
04 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1907: I think a five draw is much better, lol!
06 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1908: it is a possible. Russia might solo if he wants to go for it. There is no chance of me soloing if you look at the map. Up to russia if we draw now, or wait until there are less players.
its been a good field. Germany and Austria have been good fun, so i do not mind them being in the draw, and england has fought hard.
06 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1908: I was fully expecting to be defeated in this game, so the idea I might now be a plausible candidate for the solo is laughable.
06 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1908: Beyond survival, my most recent objective in this game has been to stop a French solo. Hence my moves to help Germany, end the threat to Norway to help England, and give Austria Bulgaria. These have now been successful because France is offering a draw.
06 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1908: Indeed, you have played it well.
06 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1908: Well I am quite surprised you'd throw out a draw offer this early but I won't argue. It's been a good game all around and everyone here has worked hard for their position.
06 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1908: Agreed on all counts
12 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1909: So this game has been going on for more than a month now and I'll be honest, I'm getting pretty tired of it. Since I'm not the type to just abandon a game I was hoping we could come to a draw soon. It's a big pot and even a 5 way split is generous with over 100 a piece (I've gone longer for a lot less). Plus a draw is still a draw whether it's between 2 people or 7 so those concerned about stats need not worry either.

I'm just looking at this from an entertainment value. I play to have fun and earning points is just a bonus, unfortunately this game has gone on for so long that it has ceased to be interesting. It's been a great game thus far and I'd like to end on a high note if that's good with you guys?
14 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1910: I'm now voting for a draw because, on balance, France will probably get to the solo if I continue holding out until England is committed. Assuming Germany also wants the draw, it's up to France whether he's happy to shake hands or whether he wants to go for the solo.
14 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1910: until England is *defeated*, I meant!
14 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1910: I want one more player out before i draw; but Germany is safe, he is crucial to my line with Russia and has been with me since the start.
20 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: Seriously France come on man. You said yourself that you want one more player eliminated but are prolonging the conflict by supporting the one who is about to be eliminated.

No offense England. For what it's worth I thought you played a good game.
20 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: The western triple is back on my friend :)
20 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: You should be more worried about Russian tanks rolling through Austria. Whatever the Russian media is telling you, it cannot be trusted.
20 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: Russian tanks already have rolled through Austria - to support Austria against France.
20 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: Sure, the Russians never hide their true intent.
20 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: Haha, you're killing me man. I just want to be done so can you please just let this end one way or another?
20 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: Sure, pull back from Trieste & we will be finished in no time.
20 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: I think we both know that's not going to happen. Even getting into the Ionian you won't be going any further East over here. England is the only one you can knock out and you refuse to so I'm a bit confused here as to what you want...?
20 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: Well, the German-French alliance is obviously based on the idea of German survival. So maybe France has done the same deal with England. In which case, maybe he gets to 18 by taking Norway, and St P, and... ?
20 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: ...Moscow
21 Jul 14 UTC Spring, 1912: ...Sweden
22 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1912: Gg yall
22 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1912: Or perhaps it's all a hoax and this will be a 17-17 Draw between France and Germany, lol!
22 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1912: Same to you England. I'm interested to see if France will go for the win at this point. Norway is a possible gain but I doubt St. Petersburg will fall. The position around Moscow is unconquerable given the right set up by the defender.
22 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1912: France takes Norway, Holland, and Kiel or St Petersburg --> 18.
22 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1912: Scratch that. Sweden makes 16. So just Norway and Holland.
22 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1912: I've identified some targets, and none of them are German.
22 Jul 14 UTC Autumn, 1912: He won't target the German is the thing so he's kind of handicapped himself. Though your loyalty to an ally is admirable. Most players would have run him over already given the significant power difference.
24 Jul 14 UTC My EOG thoughts are:
- I really was after a juggernaut at the beginning of the game.
- Given how bad the situation was in 1903 for me, I'm delighted to have survived.
- Persuading England to stab Germany, breaking up the Western Triple in the process, was my best achievement in this game. Winning over Austria, and developing trust in that alliance, is a close second there. I'm glad that alliance held.
- France played brilliantly in the protracted endgame. With Germany and England determined to support France, it was impossible for me to stop the French solo in the north. I blame Germany for 70% of this and myself for 30% of it. France, of course, gets 100% credit for seeing it through.
Thanks for the game everyone!
24 Jul 14 UTC i haven't won yet :)
24 Jul 14 UTC Finish it, finish it!
24 Jul 14 UTC Will give my analysis after the game, stay tuned :).
24 Jul 14 UTC Leave St P open and the game will finish...
24 Jul 14 UTC Haha, you keep asking for us to leave a center open for you. We can't just do that. You have to earn that solo. ;)
25 Jul 14 UTC Dang, stabbed in loo of the French victory. Can't say I blame you Russia. Good game all.
25 Jul 14 UTC wow what a great field of players.... a pleasure to play with you all. Hah, Germany, i have actually had a 2 way victory with sweetwatersam before... i never even guessed it was you!
So analysis...
early on i was amazed how well the triple was working and was quite committed to it. I had never seen it work so well. I think Russia did extremely well persuading England to stab as it took us all by surprise.
Austria i thought played a good game. Surviving as Austria is a victory in my eyes :). Mind you i did warn you Russia would stab... hee hee, maybe it was quite a late stab.
Russia played well, but with me having the lead throughout, and Germany not playing ball, then it was tricky.
Germany was crucial to my win. I could not have held Munich otherwise. I think he probably did the right thing though, as although he could have stopped my win, he then would have been eliminated and we probably would have had a 3 way with austria. A close call for Germany, but his path meant his survival was more likely; which after the england stab was probably not a bad outcome.

Good play all, and thanks!
25 Jul 14 UTC Sylvania, i see we drew a while back in a modern dip game (Prophecy). We had a similar relationship in that game as well i seem to remember... friendly rivals, a few skirmishes etc! Impressive win % you have!
25 Jul 14 UTC Yeah, it's really weird how relationships in previous games have been repeated in this one. I set this game up and invited a number of top players I'd played with before.
KingJohnII - I spent a lot of time in Prophecy being deeply suspicious of you wanting a solo in that game...
Kramerkov18 - Who was Spain in Prophecy - that was a case of me working with you to stop France - and then me stabbing you at the end! Sorry about that by the way, I wanted to stop him getting Moscow here...
sweetwatersam - we recently failed to do much more than survive in a recent world game, The Day The World Won One - 2... just like in this one...
Kapuczino - you played really well in that draw as France, and it's a shame it didn't work out this time round...

I agree with everything KingJohnII says about this game. Well played to him, top player.
25 Jul 14 UTC No worries Russia. I would have done the same in your position. Just glad I was able to hold out until the end.

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KingJohnII (1536 D (B))
Won. Bet: 80 D, won: 306 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
Sylvania (4000 D)
Survived. Bet: 80 D, won: 187 D
11 supply-centers, 9 units
sweetwatersam (6256 D)
Survived. Bet: 80 D, won: 34 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
Survived. Bet: 80 D, won: 34 D
2 supply-centers, 5 units
thewalrus (150 D)
Defeated. Bet: 80 D
rednas11 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 80 D
kapuczino (107 D)
Defeated. Bet: 80 D
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