Finished: 11 AM Wed 30 Sep 09 UTC
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1 day /phase
Pot: 131 D - Autumn, 1910, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Zman (207 D)
19 Sep 09 UTC Spring, 1901: Hello everybody. Good luck to you all.
19 Sep 09 UTC Spring, 1901: good luck ! and may the best (= me) win !
22 Sep 09 UTC Spring, 1902: This game is a little messed up if Fra and Ita are both not playing.
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: here is what i said to turkey : 01:11 PM Marseilles is naturally yours. Russia got berlin, and i will get holland. i would also like to get belgium, but i doubt it will be possible this turn.

But after germany is gone, should we consider a 3 - way draw ? I would hate to need to strike a deal, either against your or russia at this point. i think it was a nice game that should end in 2 years max. what do you think?

obviously, if we are to agree to go together against russia, we will succeed. similar, if you agree with russia to go against me, i cannot stand you both. and you cannot stand against me and russia. so, it would be useless to even start to think about it.
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: and this is the what i said to russia:

ME: should this game be a 3 way draw ?

Russia: I'd be ok with that. But it would require Turk to agree.
08 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Like I said boss, post it on global. When i see Rus agree to it in public, I will consider.
08 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: But why are we even considering this? Why not crush Rus between the two of us?
08 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Huh? How are these global comments? Did someone cut-paste direct comments onto global?
08 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: What the hell is going on? I never wrote that!
08 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Well if its all out in the open (i dont know how or why) what are we going to do? Draw? Or are we going to side up against the odd man out? I look forward to either global or direct messages with respect thereto.
08 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Ummm.....ok i dont know whether to be confused or scared hehe. My vote is for a draw.
08 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Sorry, but i dont agee to a draw. One out of you 2 will join me against the other, which equals a win. Yes, i acknowledge that I could be the odd man out, but the would be a much harder fight for two rather than me + Eng against Rus or me+ Rus against Eng.

This is odd in the sense that it is all out in the open, but i will be messaging you each individually shortly.
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: :D i expected to hear that from you .

but i want to fight you and i hope i can convince russia to join :D. i never liked easy games, we got a lot of luck getting germany out so fast, and i am sure we can eventually get you out as well.

so, i made my point clear now. you still have time to click the draw button.
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: You have both been excellent allies. We have ruthlessly and efficiently decimated a German empire which looked like it was on the verge of easy victory, and you have both lept your word at all times.

But. Eng was originally Germany's ally and facilitated Germany's easy conquest of France. Further, Eng made an unprovoked attack against me in Sweden. Yes, the Brits came to their senses and sided against the Germans, and even handed Swe back, and have been a model ally after their initial aggression.

But Turk has been an ally from the very beginning, and it would be wrong to desert them now. So there you go. If it is war between Turk and Eng, then I am (with an admittedly heavy heart) on Turk's side.

I only hope that Turkey will agree to a ceasefire (draw) before Russian troops are forced to leave London in ruins...
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: On the note, Eng plz finalize your moves so that we can get this unpleasant business over with.
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: The Ottoman Turks shall not rest until they see Big Ben cast into the Thames and the English Monarchy hanged from the spires of Buckingham Palace.

(But lets do it quickly, since theyre just 3 of us now).
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Hey. We're all online. Lets try to get a few moves in quickly. What say you guys?
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Yeah lets do it. Eng?
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: yeah, i respect your decision, we shall see.
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Thanks mate. Im sure you would have done the same. Its seems like the right thing to do. So shall we put in a few moves quickly? I dont want to draw this out.
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: You know, it looks like Eng may actually be able to create a stalemate line. Turk, I suppose if they do that you will draw?
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: They may be able to in Germany, but it will be difficult in the north and south. But obviously if they do it, I will draw. First they need to finalize.
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Eng you there? Why dont you finalize? Sorry dont mean to be pushy but we are online so we should take advantage of it. Thanks
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Huh? Now Eng is off-line? and he didnt finalize? Thats uncool.
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Hmm. Oh well. I guess its his right not to. But it is odd and frustrating.
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: more reason to crush him i say.
09 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1907: sorry, it was my coffee break and could not think of all moves.
09 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: No worries.
09 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: Ah attacking from Kiel so supp cant be cut. Nice one.

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Turkey
Zman (207 D)
Won. Bet: 15 D, won: 77 D
20 supply-centers, 16 units
Russia
muni3 (178 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D, won: 55 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
England
ady (100 D)
Resigned. Bet: 15 D
1 supply-centers, 5 units
Austria
redsox1326 (173 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Germany
REX 1 (121 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Italy
33093 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 13 D
France
lilone223 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 13 D
Civil Disorders
santosp (0 D X)France (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
princeofdarkness1728 (0 D X)Italy (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
lilone223 (100 D)France (Autumn, 1902) with 1 centres.
redsox1326 (173 D)Austria (Autumn, 1904) with 0 centres.
33093 (100 D)Italy (Autumn, 1902) with 2 centres.
ady (100 D)England (Spring, 1908) with 10 centres.
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