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Finished: 05 PM Mon 17 Mar 14 UTC
Private 2013 Masters Round 7 Game 3
2 days /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1916, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by The Hanged Man (4160 D (G))
11 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1901: (goldfinger0303): Alright everyone, you should be all set. Just vote unpause and you're off.
11 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Hey, I'm France! I've never been France before, can any of you give me some advice?
11 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Never get involved in a land war in Asia.
11 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Totally agree with my German friend.
14 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Greetings all and apologies for having held this game semi-hostage with my leaving a pause vote up there. The past 4 days have been pretty well shot for anything related to diplomacy. I should be good going forward now though. Individual press coming momentarily..
16 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1901: My house was robbed yesterday and my cat is missing. They also stole my laptop. I'll try to check in on Saturday and respond to press, but right now I'm otherwise occupied.
16 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: Unfortunately insurance doesn't replace the cat... or the cat videos on the laptop.

Best of luck Germany, that's never fun to deal with! Let us know if you need a pause.
16 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: Hi all. I probably would like a pause until Monday. We're still dealing with post-robbery stuff, cleaning up the trashed house and discovering new things that are missing. The cat is still missing too.
17 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: The good thing about the Masters games is that they won't process unless all the orders are in. So take all the time you want Germany.
18 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: Well, it's Monday with ano hour to go until deadline. We're not paused and I only asked for a pause until Monday. I've entered orders and will withdraw my pause vote. Thanks to those of you who tried to pause.

My cat came home late Saturday night. :). My laptop didn't. :(
18 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: Does it still have nine lives or is it down to eight?

(Come to think of it, whoever figures out how to give a laptop nine lives would make a fortune...)
18 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: I think she's still holding steady at nine lives.
23 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1902: Apologies for the delay.
08 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: Hey dick head good luck when I support Russia and Turkey to take all of my SC.
Learn to play the the game and work with an ally before stabbing him.
Cause you will not be included in the draw. Look at the alliances that are forming and learn to aid you partners not just your own ambiiitons .
Look at England and Germany and see that that can can easily cross the stalemate line before you set up any defenese .
Good luck and learn to play the game.And I don't care what your ranking may be you need to learn how to play the game because if your highly ranked your full of shit and got lucky against players who put up with your shit.
I challenge you to any game what ever format you desire any time.
08 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: I'm glad you're competent enough to tell the difference between the "Global" tab and the "Germany" tab.
08 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: And by "Germany" tab, I clearly mean "Italy" tab
08 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: Hey, don't drag me into your lasagna.
09 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: Sour grapes makes for bad whine
10 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: There is no good whine, but offering cheese results in a gouda whine
13 Dec 13 UTC Spring, 1904: (goldfinger0303): Stay classy, San Diego
11 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 1907: (goldfinger0303): Hello all,

I am sorry to do this, but I will be disabling the wait-for-orders mode in this game and all remaining games in the Masters. This feature has unfortunately been systematically abused in most every game, and by more than a few players. It was implemented with the best intentions - to prevent NMR's - but it seems to have created delays, arguments and metagaming problems that impact the game far more than any NMR would.

If a player appears to be about to miss a phase, please email asking for an emergency pause. I will not be able to monitor all games closely, so I trust everyone's honor as a player to help me in this manner.

Finally, I am deeply sorry for any problems caused in this tournament due to the wait-for-orders mode. The purpose of this tournament is to have fun, after all (well, and win) and anything that takes away from that I count as a poor reflection on the tournament, and thus myself.

If you have any concerns, please feel free to email or PM me.
11 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 1907: (goldfinger0303): I've paused the game so Austria can enter orders. Once he does, someone email the mods and this game will be unpaused.
11 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 1907: 1. Hooray! 2. Thanks for your time and diligence, goldfinger.
11 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 1907: All, you need to unpause the game to move forward.
23 Feb 14 UTC Autumn, 1913: Hmmm, looks like a win for Germany.
25 Feb 14 UTC Autumn, 1913: Obviously.
02 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: A NMR at this point? Great job England.
02 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: Well crap. I had talked with Germany and then filled out orders ~ 3 hrs before the phase shift. My apologies for not having then double checked that the orders were actually saved. So, since I had thought I entered orders, I'm not sure what happened here exactly, and yes you are right Turkey that an NMR here ruins the game and practically hands Germany the solo on a silver platter.

I'm sorry I don't know what to do at this point, other than ask Germany if he's willing to back down for a turn and essentially re-run that last turn.
02 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: Sorry, but I decline to re-run the last turn. NMRs are a part of Diplomacy, and are even covered in the rulebook. They happen all the time, although I agree this game is in a critical stage. The easy solution is to enter tentative orders early in the 48 hour phase and not ready up.

In the spirit of competition, I don't like the idea of "winning the game just because of an NMR" but (assuming I do solo) I don't think that's the case here. I already was in strong position without the NMR. FIT were not on the same page in Tri, but it doesn't look like it would have mattered. The real question was whether EC SH Bel vs. EC S Lon-Nth. I expected EC SH Bel to save the center, which means Den-Nth would have succeeded anyway. Mun S Ruh-Bel was a lock to succeed (yes, Bur S Bel-Ruh is a low-likehood alternate line).

If E intended EC SH Bel, then the only real difference from the NMR is that Bar-NWG succeeded. That's not insignificant, but it's not like I picked up builds from the NMR where the centers would have been defensible, such as if I had ordered Mun-Bur, Hol S Ruh-Bel and E intended to have EC SH Bel.
03 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: Germany,

I don't expect a re-run, but there was no harm in asking. I messed that phase up, and as a result I take the blame squarely for that tactical mistake that adds significantly to your ability to solo.

I would like to point out that Turkey's allowing Germany into Armenia was another tactical mistake that gave him a slight edge along with the already mentioned Frano-Italian miscues around Ven/Tri.

That being said, mine was the biggest mistake, I'm sorry, you all deserved better.
03 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: Well, I did a misorder on Armenia/Ankara but it didn´t give any realy advantage to Germany and I think me and Italy and France will be able to hold the position in the south. Anyway, I take my share of blame as I played a weak game and made too many mistakes to deserve a better result.

England, the true is that you decide to attack Italy just to get a smaller draw or a remote chance of a solo (only on your wild dreams you have this chance) and just give the solo to Germany in a plate. The NMR was just the last episode of this, but you have made a really poor choice moving south after neutralizing Germany first stab against you.

Germany, congrats on the win, it was deserved as you seems the only one that knows what is doing on this game and even without the NMR you will probably win too, as England seems not capable of reading the board and stopping you anyway.
04 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: The NMR has had a minimal impact, compared to all the other follies in this game, on Germany's eventual solo.
04 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 1914: I like all your optimism, but it's not a done deal yet. :)
13 Mar 14 UTC Spring, 1916: (goldfinger0303): While NMR's at this stage in the game are unfortunate, I'm not going to make any changes to this game because 1) As Germany said, the only thing that would have changed from the earlier NMR is him getting into Norwegian and 2) While Germany would never have been able to get London had England entered moves, I simply don't see any way in which Edi could have been saved this year.

Germany moves into the lead for the tournament. Congrats.
14 Mar 14 UTC Spring, 1916: Just finish this damm game. I swear I will never play the Masters again, in 7 rounds only twice the game wasn´t plagued with NMRs or players that can´t read a map.

Anyway, congrats Germany, a well deserved win.
14 Mar 14 UTC Spring, 1916: Thanks. Good game all, other than the NMRs.

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The Hanged Man (4160 D (G))
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 35 D
19 supply-centers, 17 units
Leif_Syverson (271 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
7 supply-centers, 9 units
rdrivera2005 (3152 D (G))
Survived. Bet: 5 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Spartan22 (344 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
mdrltc (1826 D (G))
Survived. Bet: 5 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
podium (498 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
KyleFC (917 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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