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Finished: 01 PM Sat 30 Nov 13 UTC
FINAL
1 day /phase
Pot: 261 D - Autumn, 2008, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by HeatMeister5000 (282 D)
01 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 1994: I hope we can all have a good, clean game. Best of luck to all!
01 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 1994: Good luck, have fun everyone.
01 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 1994: GG!
01 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 1994: Ooh, I've always wanted to be Ukraine
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: Ukraine is by far the easiest country to win with...
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: Why do you say that?
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: If either Russia or Turkey is weak, you can easily jump out to a large lead early.
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: ^You mistake ease of early lead :: ease of victory. Not at all the same.
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: from the *very small sample size available, i'd say russia is easiest to win with
same as classic
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: I'm pretty sure that in classic, Turkey has the highest win percentage. Playdiplomacy.com has some statistics on the subject, but they don't offer modern maps.
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: I'm pretty sure Russia has the highest win percentage in classic
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: http://www.playdiplomacy.com/stats.php?sub_page=5

It's not the end-all-be-all, but I'd say those numbers confer a fair level of statistical significance.
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: All I know is that in a classic game, the only country that does not have a decent chance of winning, is Italy. They're all mostly equal, except for Italy
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: I heard Spain was the best in classic
03 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1994: If either Russia or Turkey is weak, you can easily jump out to a large lead early.
19 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1998: and now we can see why you wanted to play ukrain!
Congrats, I think thats pretty much game

spain, italy and france will squabble in the west/south, turkey will finish egypt; and germany and ukrain will roll over all of us, with ukrain having the option for a solo or a 2 way draw

well played boys
22 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 1999: valiant effort turkey, but the fools at the helm in spain, france and italy, the game is already over
22 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 1999: Gotta fight the good fight
31 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2001: he that was so eager to be Ukraine...
31 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2001: just to let you all know... I stopped playing on this site a good 2 years ago, only recently have come back. In the meantime I've been playing on Vdip. Many more variants, and you run in to nmr's, cd's, and cheaters far less often. You should check it out if you haven't already.
31 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2001: thanks!
I've been looking for a better site

do they use points as a ranking system, and thus reward players who lose (survive); or do they have a different system there?
31 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2001: well it's same as here (PPSC or WTA) because it is based off of Kestas' program, however the community is more conscious of standard order of play (win, draw by preventing a solo, etc.) There is a point system but also an ELO type ranking, such as the Ghost Rating.
31 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2001: mmm...this point system ruins the game, as far as i'm concerned
they should change it somehow, maybe something as basic as 10points for a win, 6 for a draw, 1 for a survive and 0 for a loss or some such
31 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2001: and congrats to turkey, should be an easy solo from here
31 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2001: A hollow victory, but still a victory.
What are the downsides to Vdip?
01 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2001: There aren't many downsides, it's a good site
04 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 2002: Anyone who wants another chance to play this map, or just another game, join my new game at this link:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=128749
26 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: wow, that was probably the worst Diplomacy decision I've ever seen made by Ukraine.
I make a move against my long time ally in an attempt to save the game from a solo (Spain only 5 sc's away and the only one who hasn't voted draw), and how is the favor repaid, by a gluttonous and hopeless run at victory. Now Spain will win and I am glad for him.
@Spain- there was nothing vindictive in my actions against you, I was only doing the right thing according to the game by trying to protect a draw and prevent a solo. I didn't want to stab you, but my position dictated the move. Ukraine (and me) will pay dearly for his mistake.

@ Ukraine- What on earth are you doing? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. I was doing a huge favor for both of us by ensuring a draw, and you threw it all down the trash can.

Nice playing, Spain- well deserved win.
26 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: gg Turkey
26 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: This is the problem with PPSC.
26 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: Ukraine's moves have baffled me as well. He could have had an easy solo, but some people can't see beyond immediate gain. Oh well, was fun while it lasted. See you guys next game.
27 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 2008: Disgraceful play. I'm so disappointed because this was such a good game and now I have to watch it be destroyed by Ukraine's selfish run for extra points after I sacrificed my game for him. Despicable.
01 Dec 13 UTC Good game everybody.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Spain
Won. Bet: 20 D, won: 137 D
34 supply-centers, 30 units
Ukraine
Mugug (394 D)
Survived. Bet: 61 D, won: 96 D
23 supply-centers, 23 units
France
COTW (836 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D, won: 29 D
7 supply-centers, 8 units
Turkey
GSharp (2895 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Britain
Macchiavelli (2414 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Russia
him (1269 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Germany
dragodon64 (381 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Poland
partytime (131 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Egypt
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Italy
hugu37 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Civil Disorders
Macchiavelli (2414 D)Britain (Autumn, 2003) with 0 centres.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (100 D)Egypt (Autumn, 1998) with 1 centres.
dragodon64 (381 D)Germany (Autumn, 2003) with 15 centres.
Suryc (162 D)Ukraine (Spring, 2001) with 15 centres.
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