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Finished: 06 PM Mon 25 Nov 13 UTC
Oooobynoobydooby
1 day /phase
Pot: 200 D - Autumn, 2029, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by flc64 (1963 D)
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Brazil]:India - join me in finishing quebec next turn and then calling it a draw?
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Brazil]:No draw while Quebec is in game
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [India]:At the moment, you still think of 4-man draw?
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Brazil]:Yes - thats what I said and so did Oz
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [India]:Sorry, i wont accept this.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Quebec]:India deserves an all-out win for the way the game was played, and isn't that far from 44 already as it is. And Oz deserves 2nd place, which will easily happen by eating away at Brazil during those few remaining moves. Good game, you two.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Kenya]:Well, that's up to OZ then. Second place is just the top loser. The only things that count are wins and draws. If OZ joins us, we have enough power to prevent a win. What will it be OZ? Wanna be the biggest loser or share a draw?
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [India]:Ha, you guys cant resist me and oz then trying to make oz consider.
Worth a try but not a good tactic.
I already invited kenya or brazil to join the alliance but no feedback, then you guys said i m threatehing to won solo, what a poor excuse to protect yourself.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [India]:Of i wanna solo, oz is dead for many years.
But now we are the biggest alliance because we have trust.
Try harder to seperate us, try.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Kenya]:I have no idea what that means....but unless you are offering OZ a part in a draw, all you are offering him is a loss.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [India]:Sorry, i am offering at least a three player draw both not four.
LOL
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Pacific-Russia]:Yeah, I hate the people of India for what they did to my people, but they are the only ones who make sense here. Kenya and Brazil, it's time to play nice or lose. You're no match for India and OZ should they chose to keep moving forward the way they are. It will be a four way draw, or a two way draw. It's up to you. I know I don't really have much of a say here, but I just thought I'd try to help.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [India]:PR, be honest, if you are moving good to china, I won't eat you.
You just lost too much to china, so I choose to ally with Oz.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Pacific-Russia]:Understood. But that won't help my people to not resent you. They'll put curry on their potatoes now, but they will never love it.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [India]:Next time, man.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Kenya]:Basic mechanics -- 2-way draws are unstable and rarely happen as someone nearly always steals the win. So this will either be a win with survivors, a 3-way or a 4-way. I get the desire for a 3-way but here's the rub -- chances of OZ getting much from my death are slim. India gets a solo by the time I'm dead. So OZ's real choice is to accept a defeat as India's lackey, or man up and force a 4-way.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Pacific-Russia]:Or.... or.......or......... India can keep close to 40 supply points, help OZ build up close to 40 by assisting him in your destruction, and they'll walk away with a 2-way draw and each share the spoils. I mean, India's going to get credit for about 40 supply points wether he wins now or later right? So why not assist OZ in getting that too, instead of having to split it with the people who just annoy him at this point? Once again, I'm sorry to intrude here. Just saying,
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Kenya]:Have fun poking all you like PR, but you just point out the position. India can "give" anyone anything he likes. He can give OZ a draw...or take it away any time he wants. OZ can hope he gets something by playing along. Or he can demand a draw that includes him now while the power exists to enforce it. Basic game mechanics would call for the remaining nations to join to force a draw....but you are right that personal relationships are what make it all fun.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [India]:come on, kenya, you are too low.
let me repeat, i can win solo by 44 SC a long time ago, if i wish to attack.
your separation trick is weak.
poor that you need to play such kind of trick in order to gain others trust.
shame.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [India]:now im 36, i need 8 more to win solo, if i wish to, i can take it.
but sorry, i am honor that Oz is my true alliance, not like you guys, don't know what is loyalty and friendship.
So PR is right, i can keep killing and getting sc then give it to Oz to have a 2-way win.
I don't give a damn on killing you or brazil, just not Oz.
if you guys still want a fancy 4-way win, continue.
My bottom line is 3-way win.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Brazil]:Excuse me? Not know loyalty and friendship? Kenya and I both would be dead logn ago had we not had it toward each other.

Here is an altrnative - each remain nation give you 3 SCs and be done with it India - you get solo everyone else takes away their credits and its done.

id be interested to hear Oz opinion on this.
12 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2017: [Quebec]:India and Oz have earned the right to do whatever they wish to do with the game. India can beat up on Kenya, Oz can continue to beat up on Brazil, and then finish the game by whatever method they choose. I'm impressed with the good alliance that the two of them have maintained throughout. The other two players shouldn't expect a 3-way or a 4-way split.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2017: [Kenya]:Not a question of "expecting" -- its simply an analysis of the position of OZ. He can earn a draw or hang around to be given whatever scraps India offers. And hopefully, now that we've chewed this so much publicly, India will be shamed into treating him nicely.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2017: [India]:Still, kenya is playing low as he can do nothing but only to make oz turn..if he can.
LoL
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2017: [Oz]:This has already been discussed, I will maintain alliance with India.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2017: [Kenya]:Outcome is sealed -- but its hardly "low" to point out the obvious. In every game there comes a moment when the potential solo candidate is known...then an alliance of everyone else forms, or fails to form. This time it failed.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2017: [Brazil]:Just as an aside - Quebec? Go fuck yourself. You have played incredibly poorly and in poor spirit from the beginning - knowing you would do nothing but fail but to deliver the game to another through nothing but spite.

This is not the way the game should be played.

Credit to you both India and Oz for staying firm.
13 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2017: [Europe]:Hey Brazil. Why be a sore loser?
14 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2017: [Kenya]:Lot of unhappy folks in this one. I thought for sure that India's announcement that he could win this outright no matter what anyone did would be offensive enough to spark Oz's indignation. But, no...
14 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2017: [Brazil]:I haven't lost yet mate and have continued to grow despite Quebec's pathetic suicide into me, followed up by his shameful commentary.

If India won't draw after Quebec's removal, then I intend to fight and scratch and claw over every single SC until the end.

The odds are in their favour of course, but it ain't over.
14 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2017: [Quebec]:It is "over" in the sense that there isn't any chance at all of Brazil winning. The only remaining question is the method by which the successful India/Oz alliance chooses to end this game. They did the good hard work, so they deserve to end it any way they wish to.
And as for "suicides" I did nothing more than claim Union, a territory adjacent to my home SCs ... whereas Brazil threw away his chance at winning this game because of an irrational need for revenge against that single move.
Personally, I hope that India/Oz let this game last as long as possible, drawing Brazil's strength down as low as possible, especially now that he's thrown the gauntlet down and has challenged their superiority.
17 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Brazil]:Well that's kinda shitty
18 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2019: [India]:Ooooops, kenya is gone, the next is brazil. :D
18 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2019: [Brazil]:Oh well it had been an interesting match up to this point and a kinda shitty way for it to fizzle out, but c'est la vie.

Congrats India.
18 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2019: [India]:Pls congrat oz also. Haha, we are team.
22 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2020: [India]:Shit, i missed.
22 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2020: [India]:Must be lucky day for kenya and brazil.
And sorry Oz
04 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 2024: GameMaster: jackieval was banned: Multi/no response. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
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07 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2024: [Oz]:Draw Brazil, gg
07 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2024: [India]:New management in India.
07 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2024: [Brazil]:too late
07 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2024: [Brazil]:not you India - Oz - I think we were both waiting for the other to Draw because a 30 SC hole kinda wrecks the original game a fair bit
15 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2026: [Brazil]:Haha Oh Oz you crazy diamond - making sure the new Guy wins to deny me the victory. Petty till the end.
15 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2026: [Pacific-Russia]:I think OZ is threatened by shadows at night. But exposed in the light.
15 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2026: [India]:Come in here, dear boy, have a cigar.
15 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2026: [Pacific-Russia]:Ha ha, charade you are India.
16 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2026: [India]:So welcome............................................................to the machine.
18 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2027: [India]:One of these days, I'm going to cut you into little pieces
18 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2027: [Pacific-Russia]:One of these days, I'm going to dance with the evil queen
23 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 2028: [Brazil]:Oz: The Perennial Indian Bitch.

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India
flc64 (1963 D)
Won. Bet: 70 D, won: 104 D
45 supply-centers, 36 units
Brazil
Wusti (1348 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 69 D
29 supply-centers, 31 units
Oz
twinsnation (638 D (B))
Survived. Bet: 5 D, won: 29 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Argentina
Defeated. Bet: 6 D
China
Siagas (736 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Europe
kamikaze0214 (204 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Frozen-Antarctica
Quantombob (100 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Ghana
Kasz (728 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Kenya
Tatorq (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 23 D
Libya
Arcsius (136 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Near-East
devil12911 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Pacific-Russia
Chupacabra (625 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Quebec
wpfieps (433 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
VxLam (169 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
South-Africa
ydeger (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 3 D
USA
Icy Mogul (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Western-Canada
Zangeif (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
Zangeif (100 D)Western-Canada (Autumn, 2003) with 3 centres.
Check_mate (100 D)Argentina (Spring, 2001) with 5 centres.
Creigh (2750 D (G))Kenya (Autumn, 2018) with 15 centres.
JamesB (100 D)Brazil (Autumn, 2004) with 8 centres.
devil12911 (100 D)Near-East (Spring, 2004) with 4 centres.
ydeger (100 D)South-Africa (Autumn, 2002) with 0 centres.
intel4005 (100 D)South-Africa (Autumn, 2001) with 3 centres.
Icy Mogul (0 D X)USA (Autumn, 2006) with 5 centres.
JackWestJr (100 D)South-Africa (Spring, 2002) with 3 centres.
Tatorq (100 D)Kenya (Spring, 2028) with 2 centres.
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