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Finished: 08 AM Sun 08 Sep 13 UTC
Return of the Jedi
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Spring, 1914, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
01 Aug 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Oops
01 Aug 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck everyone
02 Aug 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Oops indeed :)
25 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Damn, England is one smart player and sticks around like a nasty STD
25 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: So you have experience with nasty STDs?
25 Aug 13 UTC Spring, 1909: And the Nth and Nwg are wide open! Well done England.
25 Aug 13 UTC Spring, 1909: Yeah! England will at LEAST be around until the next builds!! Maybe.
25 Aug 13 UTC Spring, 1909: Seriously, you will need 4 units to drive England out of Scandanivia.
25 Aug 13 UTC Spring, 1909: True. Perhaps you should just give up already and draw! :o
26 Aug 13 UTC Spring, 1909: Really England?
27 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1909: Give England credit, he did a great job holding us off.
01 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1911: We have stalemate folks, unless Russia wants to attack Germany to go for the solo.
02 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1911: I can keep you out of the Med. Tyr and NAf support WMed

I move Tus to Rom, and support Ven. You can only put 2 units on Ven. If you move Pie to Tus, the fleet in Mar can't hit Ven

Adr and Ser supports Tri. Bul and Bla support Rum. Arm supports Sev.

This is a stalemate, gentlemen.
02 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1911: You have a submarine in Tyr?
02 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1911: The other Tyr
02 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1911: Be afraid Germany - Russia gets his solo going after you
02 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1911: Okay. I'm under my chair and I'm shaking like crazy. Now what?!?!?!?
02 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1911: Okay. I'm under my chair and I'm shaking like crazy. Now what?!?!?!?
02 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1911: He must be drinking the purple koolaid
02 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1911: If France wouldn't have gone cd because he started losing, we'd have had the actual stale mate line (the current positions + Spain).

You've told me you play the game for 'honorable values' like partnernship and honesty, than you should recognize that me and Italy played a great game, and give us credit for holding our ground for 9 turns now by including us in your draw.
02 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1912: We acknowledge you are skillful players, there is no discredit to that. But Germany is also very skilled and we should be rewarded for our efforts.
02 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1912: Acknowledgment that you did well from players you respect is a great reward. But the fact that France went into CD, and an English player did not take advantage of a wide-open back door - he would still be sailing around the north seas - do diminish any win you could achieve here.

My hat's off to the three very talented players I met here here
02 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1912: We agree it is close to a stalemate, but let us go another turn or two. You guys are keeping us scratching our nuts.
02 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1912: You're not going to compare us to a nasty STD too, are you? :(
02 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1912: It would have been a stalemate if we had Spain to control access to the mediterranean. The only reason we don't have it, is because France decided to go cd instead of working with us.
02 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1912: It would have been a stalemate if we had Spain to control access to the mediterranean. The only reason we don't have it, is because France decided to go cd instead of working with us.
03 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1912: Instead of scratching your nuts, let's start an invitation game with skilled players who won't leave and spoil the game. :)
03 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1912: I'm good with that, and I think Germany is too. Anyone else you have in mind?
03 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1912: I've got a few players in mind. Open for recommendations, too.
03 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1912: I don't anyone on here, except the people I am in the game with. But I'm good for stalemate. You guys are awesome to play with. Would love to start another. I'll put in for draw.
04 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 1912: Russia - Why doesn't your German ally vote draw?
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: Let's eliminate him and have a 3 way split
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: Yeah, and because 23 is more than 35, and..... ummmm.... wait.......but..........and then...........
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: I took my draw off so we can eliminate Germany. He cannot survive, but that is his choice.
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: Errr...
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: If Germany doesn't agree to a draw now, that option will not be available later
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: This is officially the longest game I've played on this website.
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: Liars
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: ???
You said you would put in for a draw, but we play on. Who is the Liar?
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: Get Germany to agree to the Draw, as you said. We have a stalemate line.
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: Or work with us to eliminate Germany so we can get a draw, Either option is acceptable
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: Seriously Germany, you don't care if you win or draw, but you do care about 12 points?
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: If you guys are bored, you can just stop playing and then once your status changes to "left" I'll hit draw. And a "stalemate line" doesn't move backwards Italy. You use the word "stalemate" as well as Lance Armstrong uses the word "clean". Now stop with your shenanigans and fight like men or quit.
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: Russia - germany doesn't understand stalemate. Lets work to eliminate him for a 3-way draw
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: I'm not bored, I'm just annoyed. Both Russia and Germany could have taken the solo if you went for it at the right point. But neither of you did, because you find partnership important.

Fair enough, but you can't keep going for the two way split for "fair play" reasons, while not taking into account that the only reason you'll be able to defeat us eventually is because you used France his cd.

With a non-asshole France this would have been a 5-way draw four years ago.
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: We were breaking France down. He quit when it was already too late for him. Now stop it both of you or I'll pull this car over!!
04 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1913: It's never too late to survive.

What we missed to have the actual stale mate line was the iberian island. Sure, you took France from him, but he still had Spain & Portugal in 1908. At that point he went inactive, if he had kept playing and listened to what I said to him, you guys would never have been able to get into the mediterranean.

And guess what? The only reason you'll be able to defeat us is because you managed to get into the mediterranean.
07 Sep 13 UTC Good Game guys!

We'll meet again sometime, hopefully with players who don't bug out.
07 Sep 13 UTC Thank you for the privilege. It was a great game. I'm sorry I have been inattentive, but I'm dealing with crisis at home. I hope you have a wonderful night.
07 Sep 13 UTC Thanks for drawing guys. Good game.

(And sorry for losing my temper in some messages.)

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Russia
missileer (147 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Germany
Chupacabra (625 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
Italy
Starside (10 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Turkey
Mayonaisepot (471 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Austria
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
France
Falgata (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
England
JankiX (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
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